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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the
Mozilla Bullies] are at it again with their censorshiping:

[hidden email]
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887

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Re: mozilla censorshiping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Garcia
On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies] are
> at it again with their censorshiping:
>
> [hidden email]
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>
>

Say what ??? The entire thread is still there .. just which reply(s) are
you speaking of?

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Jay Garcia
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On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies] are
> at it again with their censorshiping:
>
> [hidden email]
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>
>

Ahh, this one:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/[hidden email]
is missing ... yours. The ID you posted above. What was the reply??

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Re: mozilla censorshiping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Garcia
On 27.04.2009 08:37, Jay Garcia wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>
>  --- Original Message ---
>
>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>
>> [hidden email]
>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>
>>
>
> Ahh, this one:
> news://news.mozilla.org:119/[hidden email]
> is missing ... yours. The ID you posted above. What was the reply??
>

Never mind, got it!! You mentioned AND set the followup according to
guidelines, I don't see anything amiss whatsoever. Capture and repost it
here would be my choice.

I would demand an explanation and email [hidden email] .. it's getting
way out of hand, IMHO of course.

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Re: mozilla censorshiping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PhillipJones
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Jay Garcia wrote:

> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>
>  --- Original Message ---
>
>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>
>> [hidden email]
>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>
>>
>
> Say what ??? The entire thread is still there .. just which reply(s) are
> you speaking of?
>
Most likely what was cut was not actually seen in the FireFox Group but
was shown in its full glory the archive link shown. I think the part
referred to was Andrew's comments just above Chris announcement about
item being removed.

I didn't see that it was all that insulting. But Chris is a more
sensitive person. (not meant as an attack, or to be insulting.)

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Re: mozilla censorshiping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay Garcia
On 27.04.2009 08:57, Phillip Jones wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>
>>  --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Say what ??? The entire thread is still there .. just which reply(s)
>> are you speaking of?
>>
> Most likely what was cut was not actually seen in the FireFox Group but
> was shown in its full glory the archive link shown. I think the part
> referred to was Andrew's comments just above Chris announcement about
> item being removed.
>
> I didn't see that it was all that insulting. But Chris is a more
> sensitive person. (not meant as an attack, or to be insulting.)
>

No, it's just the one reply from Peter that starts off:

<partial quote>
Mozilla has passed the buck on Thunderbird to another
group.  Just like they passed the buck on the old
Mozilla Suite to the SeaMonkey Council.
</quote>

That is the one that was cancelled, not the others. The "personal
feelings" of a moderator should not cloud any issue(s) whatsoever.
Following and enforcing guidelines/rules is the only determining criteria.

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Jay Garcia
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On 27.04.2009 08:57, Phillip Jones wrote:

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> I didn't see that it was all that insulting. But Chris is a more
> sensitive person. (not meant as an attack, or to be insulting.)

Oh my !! This may be it:

<quote>
Followup set to mozilla.general where this conversation
should go, to comply with the lunacy of the Mozilla Bullies
</quote>

Personal attack ??? give me a break! Shoot, sometimes I'm a "UFAQ Bully"
but so what, helpful replies are left intact and we all laugh.

Chris, are you really intimidated by that line, enough to cancel the reply?

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PhillipJones
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Jay Garcia wrote:

> On 27.04.2009 08:57, Phillip Jones wrote:
>
>  --- Original Message ---
>
>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>
>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>>
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Say what ??? The entire thread is still there .. just which reply(s)
>>> are you speaking of?
>>>
>> Most likely what was cut was not actually seen in the FireFox Group
>> but was shown in its full glory the archive link shown. I think the
>> part referred to was Andrew's comments just above Chris announcement
>> about item being removed.
>>
>> I didn't see that it was all that insulting. But Chris is a more
>> sensitive person. (not meant as an attack, or to be insulting.)
>>
>
> No, it's just the one reply from Peter that starts off:
>
> <partial quote>
> Mozilla has passed the buck on Thunderbird to another
> group.  Just like they passed the buck on the old
> Mozilla Suite to the SeaMonkey Council.
> </quote>
>
> That is the one that was cancelled, not the others. The "personal
> feelings" of a moderator should not cloud any issue(s) whatsoever.
> Following and enforcing guidelines/rules is the only determining criteria.
>
If that is the case I don't see where it would be a PA On any one
individual but the system in general.

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squaredancer
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On 27.04.2009 16:14, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Jay Garcia to
generate the following:? :

> On 27.04.2009 08:57, Phillip Jones wrote:
>
>   --- Original Message ---
>
>  
>> I didn't see that it was all that insulting. But Chris is a more
>> sensitive person. (not meant as an attack, or to be insulting.)
>>    
>
> Oh my !! This may be it:
>
> <quote>
> Followup set to mozilla.general where this conversation
> should go, to comply with the lunacy of the Mozilla Bullies
> </quote>
>
> Personal attack ??? give me a break! Shoot, sometimes I'm a "UFAQ Bully"
> but so what, helpful replies are left intact and we all laugh.
>
> Chris, are you really intimidated by that line, enough to cancel the reply?
>
>  
certainly he is "looney" enough...
looks like the canadian bearhunt didn't work - even the bears have more
sense, it seems!

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squaredancer
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On 27.04.2009 15:43, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Jay Garcia to
generate the following:? :

> On 27.04.2009 08:37, Jay Garcia wrote:
>
>   --- Original Message ---
>
>  
>> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>
>>  --- Original Message ---
>>
>>    
>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>> Ahh, this one:
>> news://news.mozilla.org:119/[hidden email]
>> is missing ... yours. The ID you posted above. What was the reply??
>>
>>    
>
> Never mind, got it!! You mentioned AND set the followup according to
> guidelines, I don't see anything amiss whatsoever. Capture and repost it
> here would be my choice.
>
> I would demand an explanation and email [hidden email] .. it's getting
> way out of hand, IMHO of course.
>
>  
*LMAO*  that link tells me that the post "May have expired"

Ain't that just saying something!!
But, to be honest - you don't really think that gerv would listen to a
mere "user" ??
We all read his submissivenes to ChrisI's chain-sawing the executive
chairlegs!

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies] are
> at it again with their censorshiping:
>
> [hidden email]
> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>
>

they even violated their own censorship rules
<http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html>
where it says: ". . . and (if possible) notify the
poster by private e-mail."

As of yet I have NOT received such reply.

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
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squaredancer wrote:
> On 27.04.2009 16:14, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Jay Garcia to
> generate the following:? :
>> Chris, are you really intimidated by that line, enough to cancel the
>> reply?
> certainly he is "looney" enough...
> looks like the canadian bearhunt didn't work - even the bears have more
> sense, it seems!

how do you know it was him? There are two other
bastards that does his dirty work you know!

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
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squaredancer wrote:

> On 27.04.2009 15:43, CET - what odd quirk of fate caused  Jay Garcia to
> generate the following:? :
>> On 27.04.2009 08:37, Jay Garcia wrote:
>>
>>   --- Original Message ---
>>
>>  
>>> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>
>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>>    
>>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>>
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>> Ahh, this one:
>>> news://news.mozilla.org:119/[hidden email]
>>> is missing ... yours. The ID you posted above. What was the reply??
>>>
>>>    
>>
>> Never mind, got it!! You mentioned AND set the followup according to
>> guidelines, I don't see anything amiss whatsoever. Capture and repost
>> it here would be my choice.
>>
>> I would demand an explanation and email [hidden email] .. it's
>> getting way out of hand, IMHO of course.
>>
>>  
> *LMAO*  that link tells me that the post "May have expired"

it hasn't expired per-sae.  Its been removed and that
the message one receives.  I suggest you look at some
of your past postings and you'll see that they too have
been terminated.

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Jay Garcia
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On 27.04.2009 11:01, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> they even violated their own censorship rules
> <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html> where it says: ". .
> . and (if possible) notify the poster by private e-mail."
>
> As of yet I have NOT received such reply.
>

Regardless, it's just basic common courtesy.

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Michael Kohler
Mh, do you think it'll get better with this when you insult the mozilla
people with bastards? Oh dear..
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Phillip Jones wrote:

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 27.04.2009 08:29, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>
>>  --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>
>>>
>> Say what ??? The entire thread is still there .. just which reply(s) are
>> you speaking of?
>>
> Most likely what was cut was not actually seen in the FireFox Group but
> was shown in its full glory the archive link shown. I think the part
> referred to was Andrew's comments just above Chris announcement about
> item being removed.
>
> I didn't see that it was all that insulting. But Chris is a more
> sensitive person. (not meant as an attack, or to be insulting.)
>
Andrew's comments?  I already censor them.  No loss.
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>
>> [hidden email]
>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>
>>
>
> they even violated their own censorship rules
> <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html> where it says: ". .
> . and (if possible) notify the poster by private e-mail."
>
> As of yet I have NOT received such reply.
>

they want us to follow the policies of the newsgroups,
and yet they don't follow them themselves. It says here
http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html:

<quote>
If they agree that a post contains a personal attack,
they will immediately remove the post *and* (if
possible) *notify the poster by private e-mail*.
</unquote> emphasizes mine!

They're the ones that created this policy, and yet they
don't follow it.  As of todays date and time, I still
have NOT received a message from the Bullies.  Its way
over 24 hours since the removal.  Some moderators they
are!

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Jay Garcia
On 28.04.2009 11:39, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

  --- Original Message ---

> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>
>>>
>>
>> they even violated their own censorship rules
>> <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html> where it says: ".
>> . . and (if possible) notify the poster by private e-mail."
>>
>> As of yet I have NOT received such reply.
>>
>
> they want us to follow the policies of the newsgroups, and yet they
> don't follow them themselves. It says here
> http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html:
>
> <quote>
> If they agree that a post contains a personal attack, they will
> immediately remove the post *and* (if possible) *notify the poster by
> private e-mail*.
> </unquote> emphasizes mine!
>
> They're the ones that created this policy, and yet they don't follow
> it.  As of todays date and time, I still have NOT received a message
> from the Bullies.  Its way over 24 hours since the removal.  Some
> moderators they are!
>

"Do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind. 8-)

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Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>> it looks like the anal retentive bastards [aka the Mozilla Bullies]
>>> are at it again with their censorshiping:
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/browse_thread/thread/278bd5dc6e2f7a4c/705ca7f915fe1887?q=#705ca7f915fe1887 
>>>
>>>
>>
>> they even violated their own censorship rules
>> <http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html> where it says: ".
>> . . and (if possible) notify the poster by private e-mail."
>>
>> As of yet I have NOT received such reply.
>>
>
> they want us to follow the policies of the newsgroups, and yet they
> don't follow them themselves. It says here
> http://www.mozilla.org/community/cancellation.html:
>
> <quote>
> If they agree that a post contains a personal attack, they will
> immediately remove the post *and* (if possible) *notify the poster by
> private e-mail*.
> </unquote> emphasizes mine!
>
> They're the ones that created this policy, and yet they don't follow
> it.  As of todays date and time, I still have NOT received a message
> from the Bullies.  Its way over 24 hours since the removal.  Some
> moderators they are!
>


Um, wasn't it stated at one time that since you had been 'banned'
earlier, your messages could be removed without the requirement of
informing you prior?  I recall something like that being stated, but
that may be mis-remembering something.


The only person you can change is yourself, you can't change others.
Regardless of how you feel, or think, the moderators are acting on their
own interpretation (s) of the guidelines.

When I was actively involved in 'censoring' and 'removal' of posts that
exceeded the guidelines (in another newsgroup, on another server by the
way), there were on several occasions when things happened that
shouldn't have, on the face of it, we 'the moderators', weren't
following the guidelines that we laid out - just as it appears here.
Mistakes happen, people get carried away, people let their emotions rule
their better judgement, there are a myriad of reasons.  And yep, posts
get cancelled or removed and they shouldn't have, or posts that should
have been removed weren't.

In other words, stuff* happens. And while it may be unsettling when it
happens to your posts or messages, it really isn't the end of the world.
In fact, since such cancellations are after the fact in this newsgroup,
most probably won't even notice, as they have already read it.

In short, so what. A post from you got canned. It's not that earth
shattering, nor do I think it will materially affect much of anything in
the future. You don't like it, that's obvious, but ofttimes one has to
deal with things he/she doesn't like.


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Re: mozilla censorshiping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote:

> Um, wasn't it stated at one time that since you had been 'banned'
> earlier, your messages could be removed without the requirement of
> informing you prior?  I recall something like that being stated, but
> that may be mis-remembering something.

show me the posting!

> The only person you can change is yourself, you can't change others.
> Regardless of how you feel, or think, the moderators are acting on their
> own interpretation (s) of the guidelines.

sorry, but they created the guidelines, and they're not
following them!  As someone else once said: "Do as I
say, not as I do!"

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