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Thunderbird2 Beta

Brandon Beck-2
Any comments on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Pane_Reduction 
before the feature-complete beta is released?  B
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Re: Thunderbird2 Beta

Skree
Brandon Beck Spoke Thus and So about This and That:
> Any comments on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Pane_Reduction 
> before the feature-complete beta is released?  B
It looks real interesting.

I like the in-line message opening.

How does one dragndrop a message to a folder?

I like having the folder pane in view, makes it easier to dragndrop
unread/read messages into a specific folder. I've found that much easier
than trying to create a bunch of filters which slow down things.

In upshot I'm sure I could get used to it - but I'd prefer two panes.

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Re: Thunderbird2 Beta

Jonathan Pritchard-3
Skree wrote:

> Brandon Beck Spoke Thus and So about This and That:
>> Any comments on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Pane_Reduction 
>> before the feature-complete beta is released?  B
> It looks real interesting.
>
> I like the in-line message opening.
>
> How does one dragndrop a message to a folder?
>
> I like having the folder pane in view, makes it easier to dragndrop
> unread/read messages into a specific folder. I've found that much easier
> than trying to create a bunch of filters which slow down things.
>
> In upshot I'm sure I could get used to it - but I'd prefer two panes.
>

I'd love it as an option, but I would also like to be able to revert
back to the original 3-pane view if I wanted to.

Looks good.

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Re: Thunderbird2 Beta

Ron K.
T-bird Leader Jonathan Pritchard radioed the tower On 9/11/2006 6:16 PM:

> Skree wrote:
>> Brandon Beck Spoke Thus and So about This and That:
>>> Any comments on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Pane_Reduction 
>>> before the feature-complete beta is released?  B
>> It looks real interesting.
>>
>> I like the in-line message opening.
>>
>> How does one dragndrop a message to a folder?
>>
>> I like having the folder pane in view, makes it easier to dragndrop
>> unread/read messages into a specific folder. I've found that much
>> easier than trying to create a bunch of filters which slow down things.
>>
>> In upshot I'm sure I could get used to it - but I'd prefer two panes.
>>
>
> I'd love it as an option, but I would also like to be able to revert
> back to the original 3-pane view if I wanted to.
>
> Looks good.
>

With out seeing more explanation pertaining to Mail or USENET I only see
this proposal as good for RSS and Blogs.

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Re: Thunderbird2 Beta

Mike Cowperthwaite-2
In reply to this post by Brandon Beck-2
Brandon Beck wrote:
> Any comments on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Pane_Reduction 
> before the feature-complete beta is released?  B

It's far too late for any complex new feature like this to go into 2.0.

In 2.0, it's now possible to do without the Folder Pane -- there's a new
Folder Location dropdown which can be added to the toolbar to pick which
folder you're looking at.  It's not tabbed, and it's not quite as
flexible as the scheme described there, and there's still a message pane
separate from the thread pane.

Also note that there is a new pane layout being tested on the trunk, for
possible inclusion in 2.0:
   <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215661>
This solves a few minor problems with existing layouts: the thread pane
can be substantially wider, displaying more information, while the
message pane doesn't need to be as wide, allowing the (wrapped) text to
be presented in shorter, easier-to-read lines -- and yet the overall
window width can be smaller.  Your proposed scheme forces identical
widths on all three pane types.

I see little advantage to the inline message pane, unless you had in
mind opening multiple messages inline.  I also don't see the tab scheme
as presented being especially useful; I'd like to see tabbing where one
tab is mail, one tab is news, and feeds are either on a separate tab or
part of one of the other two -- but each tab is a 3-pane.
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Re: Thunderbird2 Beta

Skree
Mike Cowperthwaite Spoke Thus and So about This and That:

> Brandon Beck wrote:
>> Any comments on http://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Pane_Reduction 
>> before the feature-complete beta is released?  B
>
> It's far too late for any complex new feature like this to go into 2.0.
>
> In 2.0, it's now possible to do without the Folder Pane -- there's a new
> Folder Location dropdown which can be added to the toolbar to pick which
> folder you're looking at.  It's not tabbed, and it's not quite as
> flexible as the scheme described there, and there's still a message pane
> separate from the thread pane.
>
> Also note that there is a new pane layout being tested on the trunk, for
> possible inclusion in 2.0:
>   <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215661>
> This solves a few minor problems with existing layouts: the thread pane
> can be substantially wider, displaying more information, while the
> message pane doesn't need to be as wide, allowing the (wrapped) text to
> be presented in shorter, easier-to-read lines -- and yet the overall
> window width can be smaller.  Your proposed scheme forces identical
> widths on all three pane types.
>
> I see little advantage to the inline message pane, unless you had in
> mind opening multiple messages inline.  I also don't see the tab scheme
> as presented being especially useful; I'd like to see tabbing where one
> tab is mail, one tab is news, and feeds are either on a separate tab or
> part of one of the other two -- but each tab is a 3-pane.

I switched to this view in TB3.0a and tb shut down when I clicked on a
newsgroup to view headers.

Talkback generated a report.

I restarted and all seems ok.

Will try this 'new' view for awhile and see if I like it.

Kenn
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Re: Thunderbird2 Beta

Peter Lairo
In reply to this post by Mike Cowperthwaite-2
Mike Cowperthwaite wrote on 12.09.2006 05:15:
> In 2.0, it's now possible to do without the Folder Pane -- there's a new
> Folder Location dropdown which can be added to the toolbar to pick which
> folder you're looking at.  It's not tabbed, and it's not quite as
> flexible as the scheme described there, and there's still a message pane
> separate from the thread pane.

And it's too narrow (it doesn't show the folders' whole names).

Instead of like this:

+------------+
|            |
+------------+
|            |
~            ~
|            |
+------------+

It should be like this:

+------------+
|            |
+------------+----+
|                 |
~                 ~
|                 |
+-----------------+

Where the width adjusts to the content's width, up to some maximum width
- like Firefox's bookmark menus do it.

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