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Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

caver1-5
"The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
functionality of the legacy add-on.
Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus is
a sign of life."

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
It is listed as experimental.
You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

WaltS48-9
On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:

> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
> functionality of the legacy add-on.
> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
> is a sign of life."
>
> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
> It is listed as experimental.
> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>

I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

caver1-5
On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>> is a sign of life."
>>
>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>> It is listed as experimental.
>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>
>
> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>

I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

Daniel-2
Caver1 wrote:

> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>> is a sign of life."
>>>
>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>
>>
>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>
> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>
What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess, as
you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).

And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
m.gen!

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

WaltS48-9
On 2/7/18 2:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

> Caver1 wrote:
>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>
>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>
> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess,
> as you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something
> that might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to
> post it to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>
> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
> m.gen!
>

I see as a general post that supports users that want Tab Mix Plus, who
may only be subscribed to m.s.firefox. But a discussion about it belongs
here.

YMMV

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

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On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

> Caver1 wrote:
>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>
>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>
> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess, as
> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>
> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
> m.gen!
>

Why did you even get involved if you don't care?

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

Sailfish-4
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My bloviated meandering follows what Caver1 graced us with on 2/6/2018
11:54 AM:

> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
> functionality of the legacy add-on.
> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus is
> a sign of life."
>
> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
> It is listed as experimental.
> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>
Yep, it's really just a few "about:config" pref settings that don't
really do much to improve Quantum's quite sucky tabs UI ... as yet.

I have already donated to them in hopes they can eventually pull off a
TMP add-on that will allow me to productively use Quantum. Until then,
it's Fx52.xESR as my go-to browser.

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

Daniel-2
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WaltS48 wrote:

> On 2/7/18 2:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> Caver1 wrote:
>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>
>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>
>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess,
>> as you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something
>> that might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to
>> post it to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>
>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>> m.gen!
>
> I see as a general post that supports users that want Tab Mix Plus, who
> may only be subscribed to m.s.firefox. But a discussion about it belongs
> here.
>
> YMMV
>
Not all users of FF also use TMP, so why bother the pure FF users with it??

Is there a group for TMP, on their server maybe, or gmane, or All
Extensions??

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

Daniel-2
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Caver1 wrote:

> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>> Caver1 wrote:
>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>
>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>
>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess, as
>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>
>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>> m.gen!
>
> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>
because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
thought I might be able to actually assist you!

I tried!!

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

Sailfish-4
My bloviated meandering follows what Daniel graced us with on 2/7/2018
7:33 PM:

> Caver1 wrote:
>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>
>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess, as
>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>
>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>> m.gen!
>>
>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>
> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>
> I tried!!
>
Why do you think that this topic doesn't belong in this group?

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

Daniel-2
Sailfish wrote:

> My bloviated meandering follows what Daniel graced us with on 2/7/2018
> 7:33 PM:
>> Caver1 wrote:
>>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much
>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix
>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>
>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to
>>>> guess, as
>>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>>>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>
>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>> m.gen!
>>>
>>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>>
>> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
>> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
>> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
>> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
>> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>>
>> I tried!!
>>
> Why do you think that this topic doesn't belong in this group?
>
I suppose, if I thought about it more, and if this post was purely about
TMP then it should be appropriate for m.gen, but as the thread had
"drifted" to being about why a cross-posted post had not shown up
anywhere, I offered a possible reason for that.

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

caver1-5
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On 02/07/2018 10:28 PM, Daniel wrote:

> WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 2/7/18 2:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>
>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess,
>>> as you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something
>>> that might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to
>>> post it to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>
>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>> m.gen!
>>
>> I see as a general post that supports users that want Tab Mix Plus, who
>> may only be subscribed to m.s.firefox. But a discussion about it belongs
>> here.
>>
>> YMMV
>>
> Not all users of FF also use TMP, so why bother the pure FF users with it??
>
> Is there a group for TMP, on their server maybe, or gmane, or All
> Extensions??
>

So you are saying only "pure" users should use m.s.firefox?
The intent was to notify m.s.firefox users only and discussion here.
notice that there is no discussion there.

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Re: Tab Mix Plus WebExtension Development Build is out

caver1-5
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On 02/07/2018 10:33 PM, Daniel wrote:

> Caver1 wrote:
>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>
>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess, as
>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>
>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>> m.gen!
>>
>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>
> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>
> I tried!!
>

M.general is for any discussions. So tell me what subjects do you think
is off limits.
And how exactly did you help.
There are many who pointed out that they want TMP and several who said
that they wouldn't upgrade because TMP wasn't available for 57+.
Also notice that I wasn't the only one that tried this for TMP. The
other one that tried is one who I would trust more than you as to what
is appropriate.
In other words if you have nothing to add ignore, don't post wrong info.

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caver1-5
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On 02/08/2018 07:34 AM, Daniel wrote:

> Sailfish wrote:
>> My bloviated meandering follows what Daniel graced us with on 2/7/2018
>> 7:33 PM:
>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much
>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix
>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to
>>>>> guess, as
>>>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>>>>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>>
>>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>>> m.gen!
>>>>
>>>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>>>
>>> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
>>> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
>>> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
>>> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
>>> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>>>
>>> I tried!!
>>>
>> Why do you think that this topic doesn't belong in this group?
>>
> I suppose, if I thought about it more, and if this post was purely about
> TMP then it should be appropriate for m.gen, but as the thread had
> "drifted" to being about why a cross-posted post had not shown up
> anywhere, I offered a possible reason for that.
>

Drift is aloud in this group. If the drift isn't to your liking ignore
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Jim Fisher
On 8 Feb 2018 at 9:19, Caver1 wrote:

> On 02/08/2018 07:34 AM, Daniel wrote:
> > Sailfish wrote:
> >> My bloviated meandering follows what Daniel graced us with on 2/7/2018
> >> 7:33 PM:
> >>> Caver1 wrote:
> >>>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
> >>>>> Caver1 wrote:
> >>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
> >>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
> >>>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on. Still, the release of the
> >>>>>>>> WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus is a sign of life."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development
> >>>>>>>> -build-is-out/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
> >>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
> >>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
> >>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to
> >>>>> guess, as
> >>>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
> >>>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it to
> >>>>> m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
> >>>>> m.gen!
> >>>>
> >>>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
> >>>>
> >>> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
> >>> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
> >>> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
> >>> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
> >>> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
> >>>
> >>> I tried!!
> >>>
> >> Why do you think that this topic doesn't belong in this group?
> >>
> > I suppose, if I thought about it more, and if this post was purely about
> > TMP then it should be appropriate for m.gen, but as the thread had
> > "drifted" to being about why a cross-posted post had not shown up
> > anywhere, I offered a possible reason for that.
> >
>
> Drift is aloud in this group. If the drift isn't to your liking ignore
> it and move on.

I thought it was silent. Or did you mean "allowed"?  :-)

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On 02/08/2018 02:39 PM, Jim Fisher wrote:

> On 8 Feb 2018 at 9:19, Caver1 wrote:
>
>> On 02/08/2018 07:34 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>> Sailfish wrote:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Daniel graced us with on 2/7/2018
>>>> 7:33 PM:
>>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much all the
>>>>>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on. Still, the release of the
>>>>>>>>>> WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix Plus is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development
>>>>>>>>>> -build-is-out/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to
>>>>>>> guess, as
>>>>>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>>>>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it to
>>>>>>> m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>>>>> m.gen!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>>>>>
>>>>> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
>>>>> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
>>>>> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
>>>>> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
>>>>> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried!!
>>>>>
>>>> Why do you think that this topic doesn't belong in this group?
>>>>
>>> I suppose, if I thought about it more, and if this post was purely about
>>> TMP then it should be appropriate for m.gen, but as the thread had
>>> "drifted" to being about why a cross-posted post had not shown up
>>> anywhere, I offered a possible reason for that.
>>>
>>
>> Drift is aloud in this group. If the drift isn't to your liking ignore
>> it and move on.
>
> I thought it was silent. Or did you mean "allowed"?  :-)
>
> Jim Fisher
>

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Caver1 wrote:

> On 02/07/2018 10:28 PM, Daniel wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 2/7/18 2:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much
>>>>>>> all the functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix
>>>>>>> Plus is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>
>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess,
>>>> as you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something
>>>> that might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to
>>>> post it to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>
>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>> m.gen!
>>>
>>> I see as a general post that supports users that want Tab Mix Plus, who
>>> may only be subscribed to m.s.firefox. But a discussion about it belongs
>>> here.
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>> Not all users of FF also use TMP, so why bother the pure FF users with
>> it??
>>
>> Is there a group for TMP, on their server maybe, or gmane, or All
>> Extensions??
>
> So you are saying only "pure" users should use m.s.firefox?

No!! But only problems *IN* Firefox should be discussed in m.s.ff ...
or, at least, that's what I think the moderators of m.s.ff are trying to
promote!!

> The intent was to notify m.s.firefox users only and discussion here.
> notice that there is no discussion there.
>
That might have been your intent ... but it wasn't the result!!

No discussion about problems with TMP in the Firefox news group!! I
wonder why that is .... NOT!!

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Caver1 wrote:

> On 02/07/2018 10:33 PM, Daniel wrote:
>> Caver1 wrote:
>>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much
>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix
>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/ 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>
>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to
>>>> guess, as
>>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>>>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>
>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>> m.gen!
>>>
>>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>>
>> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
>> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
>> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
>> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
>> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>>
>> I tried!!
>>
>
> M.general is for any discussions. So tell me what subjects do you think
> is off limits.

M.general is for any discussions which are "Off-Topic" in the Support
and Test groups!! TMP *is not* FF, it is an extension that can be used
with FF or SM ... or PaleMoon, maybe, so, as I suggested above, maybe
discussion of TMP is o.k. here

> And how exactly did you help.

I expect I helped by providing *you* with a possible reason why your
cross-posted posts had not shown up in either of the groups you
cross-posted to!

Sorry for trying!!

> There are many who pointed out that they want TMP and several who said
> that they wouldn't upgrade because TMP wasn't available for 57+.
> Also notice that I wasn't the only one that tried this for TMP. The
> other one that tried is one who I would trust more than you as to what
> is appropriate.

Which "other one" do you mean, Caver1?? Walt!! If so, yes, I'd bow to
his knowledge and experience every day!!

> In other words if you have nothing to add ignore, don't post wrong info.
>
Sorry for trying to provide a reason for your posts not showing up!!
Please help me to improve myself by pointing out What "wrong"
information I have provided you!

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On 02/08/2018 10:21 PM, Daniel wrote:

> Caver1 wrote:
>> On 02/07/2018 10:28 PM, Daniel wrote:
>>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 2/7/18 2:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much
>>>>>>>> all the functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix
>>>>>>>> Plus is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to guess,
>>>>> as you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something
>>>>> that might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to
>>>>> post it to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>>
>>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>>> m.gen!
>>>>
>>>> I see as a general post that supports users that want Tab Mix Plus, who
>>>> may only be subscribed to m.s.firefox. But a discussion about it belongs
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> YMMV
>>>>
>>> Not all users of FF also use TMP, so why bother the pure FF users with
>>> it??
>>>
>>> Is there a group for TMP, on their server maybe, or gmane, or All
>>> Extensions??
>>
>> So you are saying only "pure" users should use m.s.firefox?
>
> No!! But only problems *IN* Firefox should be discussed in m.s.ff ...
> or, at least, that's what I think the moderators of m.s.ff are trying to
> promote!!
>
>> The intent was to notify m.s.firefox users only and discussion here.
>> notice that there is no discussion there.
>>
> That might have been your intent ... but it wasn't the result!!
>
> No discussion about problems with TMP in the Firefox news group!! I
> wonder why that is .... NOT!!
>

There have been ones in the m.s.firefox group that have complained that
there was no TMP WebExtension. This was just to show that there now was.
The only one complaining is you.
Seems you were only complaining about the discussion in this group.
Which discussion was between Walt and I. Which discussions are allowed
in this group.
Get off your high horse or maybe you've had too many beers.

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On 02/08/2018 10:34 PM, Daniel wrote:

> Caver1 wrote:
>> On 02/07/2018 10:33 PM, Daniel wrote:
>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>> On 02/07/2018 02:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
>>>>> Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/06/2018 03:20 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/6/18 2:54 PM, Caver1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> "The release is an early development build and users of Tab Mix Plus
>>>>>>>> should not get their hopes up just yet as it lacks pretty much
>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>> functionality of the legacy add-on.
>>>>>>>> Still, the release of the WebExtensions-based version of Tab Mix
>>>>>>>> Plus
>>>>>>>> is a sign of life."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/04/tab-mix-plus-webextension-development-build-is-out/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus-webextension/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is listed as experimental.
>>>>>>>> You should read the whole ghacks article before deciding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sent a post on 02/04 about that to this group, cross posted to
>>>>>>> m.s.firefox, with followup set to m.general and it never appeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried cross posting a couple of times between m.general and
>>>>>> m.s.firefox and they never showed up. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What would I know!! And why should I care, ... but if I had to
>>>>> guess, as
>>>>> you are not posting about a problem with FF but about something that
>>>>> might be added to FF (and SM, I think!!), why would you want to post it
>>>>> to m.s.ff?? It belongs in m.gen (IMHO, of course!!).
>>>>>
>>>>> And, as you cross-posted to m.s.ff, it's cross-post never made it into
>>>>> m.gen!
>>>>
>>>> Why did you even get involved if you don't care?
>>>>
>>> because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that doesn't
>>> belong here!! Note: for what it's worth, once I establish a thread is
>>> meant for m.s.ff, I usually mark it as read or Ignore it (i.e. K for
>>> killfile) so I'm not bothered by it, but in this particular case, I
>>> thought I might be able to actually assist you!
>>>
>>> I tried!!
>>>
>>
>> M.general is for any discussions. So tell me what subjects do you think
>> is off limits.
>
> M.general is for any discussions which are "Off-Topic" in the Support
> and Test groups!! TMP *is not* FF, it is an extension that can be used
> with FF or SM ... or PaleMoon, maybe, so, as I suggested above, maybe
> discussion of TMP is o.k. here
>
>> And how exactly did you help.
>
> I expect I helped by providing *you* with a possible reason why your
> cross-posted posts had not shown up in either of the groups you
> cross-posted to!

As you stated> How should I know and why should I care.
If so why not just stay out.
"Not all users of FF also use TMP, so why bother the pure FF users with
it??"
These groups are not for posts that only concern everyone.

> Sorry for trying!!
>
>> There are many who pointed out that they want TMP and several who said
>> that they wouldn't upgrade because TMP wasn't available for 57+.
>> Also notice that I wasn't the only one that tried this for TMP. The
>> other one that tried is one who I would trust more than you as to what
>> is appropriate.
>
> Which "other one" do you mean, Caver1?? Walt!! If so, yes, I'd bow to
> his knowledge and experience every day!!
>
>> In other words if you have nothing to add ignore, don't post wrong info.
>>
> Sorry for trying to provide a reason for your posts not showing up!!
> Please help me to improve myself by pointing out What "wrong"
> information I have provided you!
>

If you cross post to both groups and it is refused in the moderated
group that doesn't stop it from
getting posted to the non-moderated group. so the question by both of us.
If the cross post was refused because the subject doesn't belong then
why did the non cross posted
message on the same subject get posted on the moderated group.
I almost never cross post but I do see cross posted subjects by others
quite frequently.
Also "because you are polluting the m.gen news group with stuff that
doesn't
belong here!! "  You have yet to tell why / You / think this doesn't
belong m.general. Maybe your
opinion counts more?

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