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Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Dave Yeo-3
I've uploaded a refreshed SeaMonkey 2.42.9,
https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.42.9R2esr.en-US.os2.zip 
. Fixes include working full screen, both by pressing F11 and playing
videos (untested) as well as fixed plugin support. Even Flash should
work (untested). As well as a few other fixes courtesy of Bitwise.
Thanks to Bitwise for working on Gecko
Dave
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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Peter Brown
Hi Dave

Dave Yeo wrote:
> I've uploaded a refreshed SeaMonkey 2.42.9,
> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.42.9R2esr.en-US.os2.zip
> . Fixes include working full screen, both by pressing F11 and playing
> videos (untested) as well as fixed plugin support. Even Flash should
> work (untested). As well as a few other fixes courtesy of Bitwise.
> Thanks to Bitwise for working on Gecko
> Dave


Starts fine, crashes straight away at youtube (javascript partially
allowed) and at every site where I enable javascript - using NoScript to
block javascript unless needed by a website. So, no chance of testing
for video playback improvements.

Anyone else seeing this problem?


Regards

Pete




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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Dave Yeo-3
Peter Brown wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
> Dave Yeo wrote:
>> I've uploaded a refreshed SeaMonkey 2.42.9,
>> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.42.9R2esr.en-US.os2.zip
>>
>> . Fixes include working full screen, both by pressing F11 and playing
>> videos (untested) as well as fixed plugin support. Even Flash should
>> work (untested). As well as a few other fixes courtesy of Bitwise.
>> Thanks to Bitwise for working on Gecko
>> Dave
>
>
> Starts fine, crashes straight away at youtube (javascript partially
> allowed) and at every site where I enable javascript - using NoScript to
> block javascript unless needed by a website. So, no chance of testing
> for video playback improvements.
>
> Anyone else seeing this problem?

Javascript works fine here. Due to shortage of bandwidth, I've only
tested local video (webm) which works.
I uploaded newer libcx and NSPR4 to Bitbucket. You must have the libcx
as yours is running, can you try updating the NSPR4 dlls and see if that
helps?
Dave
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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Peter Brown
Hi Dave

Dave Yeo wrote:

> Peter Brown wrote:
>> Hi Dave
>>
>> Dave Yeo wrote:
>>> I've uploaded a refreshed SeaMonkey 2.42.9,
>>> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.42.9R2esr.en-US.os2.zip
>>>
>>>
>>> . Fixes include working full screen, both by pressing F11 and playing
>>> videos (untested) as well as fixed plugin support. Even Flash should
>>> work (untested). As well as a few other fixes courtesy of Bitwise.
>>> Thanks to Bitwise for working on Gecko
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Starts fine, crashes straight away at youtube (javascript partially
>> allowed) and at every site where I enable javascript - using NoScript to
>> block javascript unless needed by a website. So, no chance of testing
>> for video playback improvements.
>>
>> Anyone else seeing this problem?
>
> Javascript works fine here. Due to shortage of bandwidth, I've only
> tested local video (webm) which works.
> I uploaded newer libcx and NSPR4 to Bitbucket. You must have the libcx
> as yours is running, can you try updating the NSPR4 dlls and see if that
> helps?
> Dave



Err... No - a different libcx.

I spotted Ians reference to a test libcx on os2world and have given that
a try.

No longer crashes at javascript enabled sites.

Video playback capability is practically zero, the odd vid at youtube
plays but most display "An error occurred.Please try again later.
(Playback ID:... )"

Whether attempting to play video or browsing a fairly simple website
seems to involve a lot of peaking cpus - even typing this message
involves lots of cpu peaks.


Changed nspr4 and libcx to the versions you put on bitbucket. No change
in video playback or the above behaviour.


I should also add Thank You for the time and effort you put into
building Seamonkey and other bits'n'bobs.


Regards

Pete
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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Dave Yeo-3
Peter Brown wrote:
>
> Whether attempting to play video or browsing a fairly simple website
> seems to involve a lot of peaking cpus - even typing this message
> involves lots of cpu peaks.

I don't see that here, just a steady moderately high CPU load (10-15% on
both cores).
You could try playing with layout_frame_rate, which should now be set to
zero by default. Unluckily Mozilla has made some weird decisions about
compositing and it is even worse for us as we have no access to the
video drivers vsync signals.
Were you running the previous 2.49.9?
Dave
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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Peter Brown
Hi Dave

Dave Yeo wrote:
> Peter Brown wrote:
>>
>> Whether attempting to play video or browsing a fairly simple website
>> seems to involve a lot of peaking cpus - even typing this message
>> involves lots of cpu peaks.
>
> I don't see that here, just a steady moderately high CPU load (10-15% on
> both cores).


All 4 cores peaking here.


> You could try playing with layout_frame_rate, which should now be set to
> zero by default.


I'll try some experimentation when time allows.

  Unluckily Mozilla has made some weird decisions about
> compositing and it is even worse for us as we have no access to the
> video drivers vsync signals.
> Were you running the previous 2.49.9?
> Dave


Sorry, gave up on the previous version due to the difficulty of typing
any text - jerky, had to stop my slow 2 fingered typing to let the
screen catch up frequently.


Regards

Pete




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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Dave Yeo-3
Peter Brown wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
> Dave Yeo wrote:
>> Peter Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> Whether attempting to play video or browsing a fairly simple website
>>> seems to involve a lot of peaking cpus - even typing this message
>>> involves lots of cpu peaks.
>>
>> I don't see that here, just a steady moderately high CPU load (10-15% on
>> both cores).
>
>
> All 4 cores peaking here.

Yea, there's been a few people with the same problem. Seems to be mostly
AMD systems for some reason.

>
>
>> You could try playing with layout_frame_rate, which should now be set to
>> zero by default.
>
>
> I'll try some experimentation when time allows.
>
>  Unluckily Mozilla has made some weird decisions about
>> compositing and it is even worse for us as we have no access to the
>> video drivers vsync signals.
>> Were you running the previous 2.49.9?
>> Dave
>
>
> Sorry, gave up on the previous version due to the difficulty of typing
> any text - jerky, had to stop my slow 2 fingered typing to let the
> screen catch up frequently.
>

That was the symptom of having layout_frame_rate set to -1. Now it
_should_ be set to 0 out of the box, which does make the browser smooth
at the cost of CPU cycles
Dave

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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Peter Brown
Hi Dave

Dave Yeo wrote:

> Peter Brown wrote:
>> Hi Dave
>>
>> Dave Yeo wrote:
>>> Peter Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Whether attempting to play video or browsing a fairly simple website
>>>> seems to involve a lot of peaking cpus - even typing this message
>>>> involves lots of cpu peaks.
>>>
>>> I don't see that here, just a steady moderately high CPU load (10-15% on
>>> both cores).
>>
>>
>> All 4 cores peaking here.
>
> Yea, there's been a few people with the same problem. Seems to be mostly
> AMD systems for some reason.
>


Running AMD FX-4300 4 core cpu here so, for once, my system seems to fit
in with "normal".


>>
>>
>>> You could try playing with layout_frame_rate, which should now be set to
>>> zero by default.
>>
>>
>> I'll try some experimentation when time allows.
>>
>>  Unluckily Mozilla has made some weird decisions about
>>> compositing and it is even worse for us as we have no access to the
>>> video drivers vsync signals.
>>> Were you running the previous 2.49.9?
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Sorry, gave up on the previous version due to the difficulty of typing
>> any text - jerky, had to stop my slow 2 fingered typing to let the
>> screen catch up frequently.
>>
>
> That was the symptom of having layout_frame_rate set to -1. Now it
> _should_ be set to 0 out of the box, which does make the browser smooth
> at the cost of CPU cycles
> Dave
>


With layout.frame_rate set to -1 there is much less cpu peaking but the
jerky slow screen updates are back - I also notice that the odd video
that actually starts playing has reasonable audio playback but jerky video.


Regards

Pete


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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Peter Brown
Hi All

The answer seems to be to Disable Chatzilla.

Seamonkey still causes cpus to peak when loading "busy" pages but there
is no constant peaking when the browser is doing nothing and when typing
email newsgroup messages.

Disabling HPET in the BIOS also helps a little.


Regards

Pete



Peter Brown wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
> Dave Yeo wrote:
>> Peter Brown wrote:
>>> Hi Dave
>>>
>>> Dave Yeo wrote:
>>>> Peter Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Whether attempting to play video or browsing a fairly simple website
>>>>> seems to involve a lot of peaking cpus - even typing this message
>>>>> involves lots of cpu peaks.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see that here, just a steady moderately high CPU load
>>>> (10-15% on
>>>> both cores).
>>>
>>>
>>> All 4 cores peaking here.
>>
>> Yea, there's been a few people with the same problem. Seems to be mostly
>> AMD systems for some reason.
>>
>
>
> Running AMD FX-4300 4 core cpu here so, for once, my system seems to fit
> in with "normal".
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> You could try playing with layout_frame_rate, which should now be
>>>> set to
>>>> zero by default.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll try some experimentation when time allows.
>>>
>>>  Unluckily Mozilla has made some weird decisions about
>>>> compositing and it is even worse for us as we have no access to the
>>>> video drivers vsync signals.
>>>> Were you running the previous 2.49.9?
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, gave up on the previous version due to the difficulty of typing
>>> any text - jerky, had to stop my slow 2 fingered typing to let the
>>> screen catch up frequently.
>>>
>>
>> That was the symptom of having layout_frame_rate set to -1. Now it
>> _should_ be set to 0 out of the box, which does make the browser smooth
>> at the cost of CPU cycles
>> Dave
>>
>
>
> With layout.frame_rate set to -1 there is much less cpu peaking but the
> jerky slow screen updates are back - I also notice that the odd video
> that actually starts playing has reasonable audio playback but jerky video.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
>
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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Dave Yeo-3
On 09/03/17 07:13 AM, Peter Brown wrote:
> Hi All
>
> The answer seems to be to Disable Chatzilla.
>
> Seamonkey still causes cpus to peak when loading "busy" pages but there
> is no constant peaking when the browser is doing nothing and when typing
> email newsgroup messages.
>
> Disabling HPET in the BIOS also helps a little.

BTW, do still have problems with playing videos?
Dave
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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Peter Brown
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Hi Dave


Apologies for a slow response - been a little "off colour" recently.


Dave Yeo wrote:

> On 09/03/17 07:13 AM, Peter Brown wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> The answer seems to be to Disable Chatzilla.
>>
>> Seamonkey still causes cpus to peak when loading "busy" pages but there
>> is no constant peaking when the browser is doing nothing and when typing
>> email newsgroup messages.
>>
>> Disabling HPET in the BIOS also helps a little.
>
> BTW, do still have problems with playing videos?
> Dave


Less on some websites since adding the flash plugin back into the mix.
However most videos stop playing video usually between 1 to 2 minutes
with audio continuing.

Most youtube vids fail to play displaying

"An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: ......)
Learn more"

The "Learn more" link is very unhelpful - but that is google for you.

A youtube video that works sometimes but not every time - with a bit of
buffering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr_r9hkf0kU

A selection of youtube videos that display the above "An error..." message

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEaZe7LWc-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduagOSzuGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzcteihsckw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NT1GkYSe-Y

All of the above are basically blank, white pages with the video window
displaying the "error" a search box and menu button, the only text is
the error message.

Is that just my system?


Regards

Pete

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Re: Refreshed build of SM 2.42.9ESR

Dave Yeo-3
Peter Brown wrote:

> Hi Dave
>
>
> Apologies for a slow response - been a little "off colour" recently.
>
>
> Dave Yeo wrote:
>> On 09/03/17 07:13 AM, Peter Brown wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> The answer seems to be to Disable Chatzilla.
>>>
>>> Seamonkey still causes cpus to peak when loading "busy" pages but there
>>> is no constant peaking when the browser is doing nothing and when typing
>>> email newsgroup messages.
>>>
>>> Disabling HPET in the BIOS also helps a little.
>>
>> BTW, do still have problems with playing videos?
>> Dave
>
>
> Less on some websites since adding the flash plugin back into the mix.

Is Flash working for you? Did you update Odin with the version in the
experimental repository? It's needed as well there is an update to the
Flash wrapper at
https://github.com/bitwiseworks/flashwrapper/commit/87f365269ce171eaf690f8c4dc0d4539952545b2 
not sure about a binary.

> However most videos stop playing video usually between 1 to 2 minutes
> with audio continuing.
>
> Most youtube vids fail to play displaying
>
> "An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: ......)
> Learn more"
>
> The "Learn more" link is very unhelpful - but that is google for you.
>
> A youtube video that works sometimes but not every time - with a bit of
> buffering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr_r9hkf0kU
>
> A selection of youtube videos that display the above "An error..." message
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEaZe7LWc-Y
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UduagOSzuGA
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzcteihsckw
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NT1GkYSe-Y
>
> All of the above are basically blank, white pages with the video window
> displaying the "error" a search box and menu button, the only text is
> the error message.
>

Shame that removing Chatzilla didn't help. Have you tried in safe mode?
There's a ticket open for repeating/stuck sound on github,
https://github.com/bitwiseworks/mozilla-os2/issues/230 though it seems
the opposite of your problem.

> Is that just my system?

I don't have the bandwidth to test
Dave


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