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Re: [b2g] B2G User Agent

Daniel Veditz-2
On 6/21/12 8:12 AM, Matt Brubeck wrote:
> Mozilla/5.0 (MeeGo; Linux armv7l; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/13.0 Fennec/13.0
>
> (Ideally that would include "Mobile" or "Tablet", but bug 671634 was
> implemented only on Android.  Also note that the "Gecko" token
> differs from Android because bug 729348 was WONTFIXED.)

bug 588909 re-landed several weeks ago and current desktop nightlies
have Gecko/16.0 to match Android (unless it gets backed out again).

-Dan Veditz
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Re: [b2g] B2G User Agent

Gervase Markham
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On 21/06/12 06:14, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> The team has been speaking with various companies about updating
> their mobile sites to work with rendering engines other than webkit.
> We have been sharing the Fennec UA (that's all we have to run with at
> this point). While the recommended approach is for sites to adapt to
> available functionality, we can't mandate that sites stop sniffing
> the UA as the method to determine which browser should be served
> mobile content. In many cases that's exactly what they're doing.

If they must do UA sniffing, then they must - but we should be telling
them to look for "Mobile" (or maybe "Mobi") rather than Android, iPhone
or any other OS designator. The "Mobile" designator was put there
precisely for this purpose.

>> but I would hope they've been telling people "Here's the Fennec UA,
>> but Fennec runs on platforms other than Android, so don't depend
>> on it saying Android".
>
> To what other platforms are you referring and what is the UA for
> Fennec on those platforms?

See other replies. And Fennec may run on yet more platforms in the
future. Let's not assume that Android is the only mobile OS we are going
to support.

Gerv
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Re: [b2g] B2G User Agent

Gervase Markham
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On 21/06/12 16:12, Matt Brubeck wrote:
> (Ideally that would include "Mobile" or "Tablet", but bug 671634 was
> implemented only on Android.  

That shouldn't be. Please do file a bug on fixing that properly.

> Also note that the "Gecko" token differs
> from Android because bug 729348 was WONTFIXED.)

We should make that change for MeeGo as well.

Gerv
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Re: [b2g] B2G User Agent

Lawrence Mandel-2
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----- Original Message -----

> On 21/06/12 06:14, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> > The team has been speaking with various companies about updating
> > their mobile sites to work with rendering engines other than
> > webkit.
> > We have been sharing the Fennec UA (that's all we have to run with
> > at
> > this point). While the recommended approach is for sites to adapt
> > to
> > available functionality, we can't mandate that sites stop sniffing
> > the UA as the method to determine which browser should be served
> > mobile content. In many cases that's exactly what they're doing.
>
> If they must do UA sniffing, then they must - but we should be
> telling
> them to look for "Mobile" (or maybe "Mobi") rather than Android,
> iPhone
> or any other OS designator. The "Mobile" designator was put there
> precisely for this purpose.
>
> >> but I would hope they've been telling people "Here's the Fennec
> >> UA,
> >> but Fennec runs on platforms other than Android, so don't depend
> >> on it saying Android".
> >
> > To what other platforms are you referring and what is the UA for
> > Fennec on those platforms?
>
> See other replies. And Fennec may run on yet more platforms in the
> future. Let's not assume that Android is the only mobile OS we are
> going
> to support.

Agree with everything you said.
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Re: [b2g] B2G User Agent

Gervase Markham
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On 25/06/12 09:36, Gervase Markham wrote:

> On 21/06/12 16:12, Matt Brubeck wrote:
>> (Ideally that would include "Mobile" or "Tablet", but bug 671634 was
>> implemented only on Android.  
>
> That shouldn't be. Please do file a bug on fixing that properly.
>
>> Also note that the "Gecko" token differs
>> from Android because bug 729348 was WONTFIXED.)
>
> We should make that change for MeeGo as well.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=770112 filed. Who should I
CC who works on the MeeGo port?

Gerv


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Re: [b2g] B2G User Agent

Robert Kaiser
Gervase Markham schrieb:

> On 25/06/12 09:36, Gervase Markham wrote:
>> On 21/06/12 16:12, Matt Brubeck wrote:
>>> (Ideally that would include "Mobile" or "Tablet", but bug 671634 was
>>> implemented only on Android.
>>
>> That shouldn't be. Please do file a bug on fixing that properly.
>>
>>> Also note that the "Gecko" token differs
>>> from Android because bug 729348 was WONTFIXED.)
>>
>> We should make that change for MeeGo as well.
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=770112 filed. Who should I
> CC who works on the MeeGo port?

Romaxa is already CCed, he's the guy you want on that.

Robert Kaiser

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