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Re: Posting Method Stats

Simon Paquet-2
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote on 25. Feb 2010:

>>           Total      Google       Mail         News
>> mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.mbox
>> Posters:  213        29 (13.62%)  13  (6.10%)  171 (80.28%)
>> Posts:   1981        72  (3.63%)  38  (1.92%) 1871 (94.45%)
>> mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird.mbox
>> Posters:  327        90 (27.52%)  41 (12.54%)  196 (59.94%)
>> Posts:   1991       191  (9.59%) 231 (11.60%) 1569 (78.80%)

> I'm not heavily vested; but if the script is easy to run perhaps the
> ..support groups for these two apps. I'd think .dev is biased toward
> the more technical users and thus biased towards NNTP anyway; while
> support would have a bias toward those apps respective USERS.

At least in terms of posts that is not the case. From the original
post:

Total      Google       Mail         News
mozilla.support.firefox.mbox
1980       121 (6.11%)  119 (6.01%)  1740 (87.88%)


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Re: Posting Method Stats

Gervase Markham
On 25/02/10 22:53, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
> I'm not heavily vested; but if the script is easy to run perhaps the
> .support groups for these two apps. I'd think .dev is biased toward the
> more technical users and thus biased towards NNTP anyway; while support
> would have a bias toward those apps respective USERS.

         Total      Google       Mail         News
mozilla.support.calendar.mbox
Posters:  527       154 (29.22%)  47 (8.92%)   326 (61.86%)
Posts:   1925       305 (15.84%) 134 (6.96%)  1486 (77.19%)
mozilla.support.thunderbird.mbox
Posters:  306        37 (12.09%)  27 (8.82%)   242 (79.08%)
Posts:   1972        63  (3.19%) 158 (8.01%)  1751 (88.79%)

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Re: Posting Method Stats

Mike Beltzner
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With this, I begin to question the mechanism by which you're collecting your
stats - or does Hendrix post by way of NNTP?

cheers,
mike

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Justin Wood (Callek) wrote on 25. Feb 2010:

>>           Total      Google       Mail         News
>> mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey.mbox
>> Posters:  213        29 (13.62%)  13  (6.10%)  171 (80.28%)
>> Posts:   1981        72  (3.63%)  38  (1.92%) 1871 (94.45%)
>> mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird.mbox
>> Posters:  327        90 (27.52%)  41 (12.54%)  196 (59.94%)
>> Posts:   1991       191  (9.59%) 231 (11.60%) 1569 (78.80%)

> I'm not heavily vested; but if the script is easy to run perhaps the
> ..support groups for these two apps. I'd think .dev is biased toward
> the more technical users and thus biased towards NNTP anyway; while
> support would have a bias toward those apps respective USERS.

At least in terms of posts that is not the case. From the original
post:

Total      Google       Mail         News
mozilla.support.firefox.mbox
1980       121 (6.11%)  119 (6.01%)  1740 (87.88%)


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Re: Posting Method Stats

Boris Zbarsky
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On 2/26/10 9:18 AM, Mike Beltzner wrote:
> With this, I begin to question the mechanism by which you're collecting your
> stats - or does Hendrix post by way of NNTP?

Does Hendrix post to the support groups/maillists at all?  I was under
the impression that it doesn't.

The stats are then stats for whoever discovered the existence of the
support mailing list or newsgroup or google group (as opposed to
sticking to Hendrix or sumo), right?

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Re: Posting Method Stats

Mike Beltzner
On 2010-02-26, at 10:55 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:

> On 2/26/10 9:18 AM, Mike Beltzner wrote:
>> With this, I begin to question the mechanism by which you're collecting your
>> stats - or does Hendrix post by way of NNTP?
>
> Does Hendrix post to the support groups/maillists at all?  I was under the impression that it doesn't.

Durr, sorry, it posts to feedback, not support. I retract my statement.

cheers,
mike
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Re: Posting Method Stats

Justin Wood (Callek)-2
In reply to this post by Gervase Markham
On 2/26/2010 8:33 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
> On 25/02/10 22:53, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
>> I'm not heavily vested; but if the script is easy to run perhaps the
>> .support groups for these two apps. I'd think .dev is biased toward the
>> more technical users and thus biased towards NNTP anyway; while support
>> would have a bias toward those apps respective USERS.

It seems my assumption was proved wrong; Thanks for the data!

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>
>           Total      Google       Mail         News
> mozilla.support.calendar.mbox
> Posters:  527       154 (29.22%)  47 (8.92%)   326 (61.86%)
> Posts:   1925       305 (15.84%) 134 (6.96%)  1486 (77.19%)
> mozilla.support.thunderbird.mbox
> Posters:  306        37 (12.09%)  27 (8.82%)   242 (79.08%)
> Posts:   1972        63  (3.19%) 158 (8.01%)  1751 (88.79%)
>

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Re: Posting Method Stats

David E. Ross-3
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On 26-Feb-10 9:22 AM, Mike Beltzner wrote:

> On 2010-02-26, at 10:55 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
>
>> On 2/26/10 9:18 AM, Mike Beltzner wrote:
>>> With this, I begin to question the mechanism by which you're collecting your
>>> stats - or does Hendrix post by way of NNTP?
>>
>> Does Hendrix post to the support groups/maillists at all?  I was under the impression that it doesn't.
>
> Durr, sorry, it posts to feedback, not support. I retract my statement.
>
> cheers,
> mike

Threading can be a problem when using E-mail instead of an NNTP client.
 This thread broke off from the original thread when Mike Beltzner used
Office Outlook 12.0 to post a reply via E-mail.

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Re: Posting Method Stats

Wayne Mery
On 2/26/2010 8:05 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

> On 26-Feb-10 9:22 AM, Mike Beltzner wrote:
>> On 2010-02-26, at 10:55 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/26/10 9:18 AM, Mike Beltzner wrote:
>>>> With this, I begin to question the mechanism by which you're collecting your
>>>> stats - or does Hendrix post by way of NNTP?
>>>
>>> Does Hendrix post to the support groups/maillists at all?  I was under the impression that it doesn't.
>>
>> Durr, sorry, it posts to feedback, not support. I retract my statement.
>>
>> cheers,
>> mike
>
> Threading can be a problem when using E-mail instead of an NNTP client.
>   This thread broke off from the original thread when Mike Beltzner used
> Office Outlook 12.0 to post a reply via E-mail.
>

indeed most annoying, and my only objection to gatewaying.

I don't understand why this can't be fixed. This doesn't happen with my
listproc list gwayed to google via newsguy.

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