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Re: Integration with server side spam filtering.

Lewis Rosenthal
Sorry for the late follow-up...

All of this sounds great, Eric; would that it could be the case someday
(though I can imagine the amount of traffic it could/would generate).
Perhaps a couple of RFE's would be in order...

On 09/28/2005 12:39 pm, Eric S. Johansson thus wrote :

> Lewis Rosenthal wrote:
>>  From MozillaZine
>> (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/qa/archives/2005/09/need_some_testing_thunderbird.html): 
>>
>>
>> "The Junk Mail Controls dialog now has support for server side spam
>> filtering. You can customize Thunderbird to look for Spam Assassin or
>> Spam Pal spam headers when analyzing incoming e-mail and we'll mark
>> the messages as junk as appropriate."
>>
>> So, check out the new Junk Mail Controls dialog.
>
> interesting.  I was hoping for something a little more sophisticated. In
> my server-side antispam system, (camram.org), I extract all of the
> suspect messages before they even reach the mailbox.  I was hoping it
> would be possible to repurpose the "this is junk" button with an
> external function or capability so that one could feedback the message a
> user considers to be junk including all of the header data supplied by
> the camram system.
>
> A second feature that would be nice would be the ability to indicate the
> number of messages in the spamtrap somewhere on the Thunderbird display
> real estate.  And then a third thing that would be nice would be pushing
> that indicator which would invoke the browser or client-side interface
> to the spamtrap
>
> --- eric

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Re: Integration with server side spam filtering.

Eric S. Johansson
Lewis Rosenthal wrote:
> Sorry for the late follow-up...
>
> All of this sounds great, Eric; would that it could be the case someday
> (though I can imagine the amount of traffic it could/would generate).
> Perhaps a couple of RFE's would be in order...

better late than never.  :-)

if there is someone willing to talk with me about this off-line (or on
some public forum if it's not off-topic) and help me understand the
current architecture, it might be worth generating those rfe's   at the
very least, maybe I can do something to work with Thunderbird's current
antispam structure.

For example, I can do a lot of things with correcting training if I can
get my hands on the messages the user sees as junk.  I see in the user
interface there is an option which will let you move junk messages to
the junk mailbox when you hit the "this is junk" button.  In IMAP, I
have a program which grabs messages out of mbox or maildir mailboxes and
retrains the filter and removes the from address from the white list.
The same thing could work with pop 3 if Thunderbird could push the
message is my way (XML RPC, private protocol, SMTP with special header,
it doesn't matter).

another option might be the Spam assassin feedback mechanism.  I've seen
some note saying that it exists but I don't quite see where.  Again,
help with the documentation please.

since Thunderbird 1.5 is in beta 2, I suspect the only option for these
kind of changes would be as an add-on for this release but may be
incorporate for the release after.  I don't know, I don't have the deep
knowledge of Thunderbird to be able to make the changes.  This is why I
need a mentor, someone that is willing to help pass along the knowledge.

---- eric
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