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New SeaMonkey build

Dave Yeo-3
I've uploaded
https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.35a2.en-US.os2.zip,
commesr updated to 38.8.0, Bitwise currently at 38.6.1, along with
various fixes from Bitwise, who are given a big thanks.
New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
support in JavaScript and if the FFmpeg/Libav (not FFmpeg 3.x) DLLs are
found in the Libpath, MP4 and AAC should be supported in HTML5 video.
Yum install ffmpeg_libs or I have a couple of minimal libav builds at
https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/libav/downloads. They'll have a couple of
small requirements such as libz and bzip2.
Dave
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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Andreas Kohl-6
Dave Yeo wrote:
> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
> support in JavaScript

That works in real world only with netlabs experimental repo.

From
<http://rpm.netlabs.org/experimental/00/zip/icu-56_1-1_oc00.zip>
following files are required:
icudt.dll                 13.547.886 15.03.16
icuin.dll                  1.588.140 15.03.16
icuuc.dll                  1.016.679 15.03.16

Also pango100.dll and cairo2.dll should be mentioned for the new build.

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Martin Rosenfeld-2
Andreas,

>> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
>> support in JavaScript
>
> That works in real world only with netlabs experimental repo.
>
> From
> <http://rpm.netlabs.org/experimental/00/zip/icu-56_1-1_oc00.zip>
> following files are required:
> icudt.dll                 13.547.886 15.03.16
> icuin.dll                  1.588.140 15.03.16
> icuuc.dll                  1.016.679 15.03.16

Is there a way that I could download and install icu-56_1-1_oc00 using
Yum or Arca Noae Package Manager?

I already have installed "libicu."

Martin
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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Dave Yeo-3
On 05/09/16 01:48 PM, Martin Rosenfeld wrote:

> Andreas,
>
>>> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
>>> support in JavaScript
>>
>> That works in real world only with netlabs experimental repo.
>>
>> From
>> <http://rpm.netlabs.org/experimental/00/zip/icu-56_1-1_oc00.zip>
>> following files are required:
>> icudt.dll                 13.547.886 15.03.16
>> icuin.dll                  1.588.140 15.03.16
>> icuuc.dll                  1.016.679 15.03.16
>
> Is there a way that I could download and install icu-56_1-1_oc00 using
> Yum or Arca Noae Package Manager?
>
> I already have installed "libicu."
>

Sorry for forgetting that I got it from the experimental repository, too
much time passed :)
Simplest is to add the experimental repository, though a little
dangerous as not all packages have been thoroughly tested,
yum install netlabs-exp
Or just download the RPM,
http://rpm.netlabs.org/experimental/00/i386/i686/icu-56.1-1.oc00.i686.rpm
and do
yum install icu-56.1-1.oc00.i686.rpm
Dave
ps thanks Andreas for catching this, it's been so long since I installed
it and expected a new Firefox release before now
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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
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On 05/08/16 04:47 pm, Dave Yeo wrote:

> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.35a2.en-US.os2.zip,
> commesr updated to 38.8.0

Thanks!

> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization

Wow, that's a fat DLL.  I was hoping it would magically fix the password
prompts appearing for saved mail/news passwords, but it did not.  Is no
one else having a problem with that?  Same profile works fine with 2.28
(although 2.35 seems to have busted the profile for downloading in 2.28
- promise something or other).

> if the FFmpeg/Libav (not FFmpeg 3.x) DLLs are
> found in the Libpath, MP4 and AAC should be supported in HTML5 video.

http://html5test.com/ says No for MPEG-4, H.264, AAC, and MP3.  How to
troubleshoot?

> Yum install ffmpeg_libs or I have a couple of minimal libav builds at
> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/libav/downloads. They'll have a couple of
> small requirements such as libz and bzip2.

Perhaps there is a libbz2.dll needed?

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
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On 05/08/16 04:47 pm, Dave Yeo wrote:

> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
> support in JavaScript and if the FFmpeg/Libav (not FFmpeg 3.x) DLLs are
> found in the Libpath, MP4 and AAC should be supported in HTML5 video.

New mozsupport package has these:
http://os2news.warpstock.org/Warpzilla.html

Although something is missing for libav to work...

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Dave Yeo-3
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Steve Wendt wrote:

> On 05/08/16 04:47 pm, Dave Yeo wrote:
>
>> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/dry-comm-esr31/downloads/seamonkey-2.35a2.en-US.os2.zip,
>>
>> commesr updated to 38.8.0
>
> Thanks!
>
>> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
>
> Wow, that's a fat DLL.  I was hoping it would magically fix the password
> prompts appearing for saved mail/news passwords, but it did not.  Is no
> one else having a problem with that?  Same profile works fine with 2.28
> (although 2.35 seems to have busted the profile for downloading in 2.28
> - promise something or other).

I haven't been being prompted for passwords in ages and don't remember
any other complaints.

>
>> if the FFmpeg/Libav (not FFmpeg 3.x) DLLs are
>> found in the Libpath, MP4 and AAC should be supported in HTML5 video.
>
> http://html5test.com/ says No for MPEG-4, H.264, AAC, and MP3.  How to
> troubleshoot?

MP3 and according to html5test, MPEG-4 ASP is still not supported, I did
encode some MP4's with H264 and they worked locally. Hopefully Bitwise
will leverage libavcodec to play MP3's later.

Set NSPR_LOG_MODULES=FFmpegDecoderModule:9 to troubleshoot, and also
make sure that these preferences are set to true, they should be now but...
media.fragmented-mp4.exposed
media.fragmented-mp4.ffmpeg.enabled

>
>> Yum install ffmpeg_libs or I have a couple of minimal libav builds at
>> https://bitbucket.org/dryeo/libav/downloads. They'll have a couple of
>> small requirements such as libz and bzip2.
>
> Perhaps there is a libbz2.dll needed?
>

Probably, and possibly libzma0 (my FFmpeg 3.0.x needed it, not sure
about Dmitri's or my libav builds).
You can also install the rest of FFmpeg from Netlabs along with SDL
(might work with other builds) and try FFplay, it may also need
fontconfig and freetype
Dave

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
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On 05/09/16 10:47 pm, Steve Wendt wrote:

> New mozsupport package has these:
> http://os2news.warpstock.org/Warpzilla.html
>
> Although something is missing for libav to work...

Should be fixed now. :)

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
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On 05/09/16 10:58 pm, Dave Yeo wrote:

>> password prompts appearing for saved mail/news passwords
>
> I haven't been being prompted for passwords in ages and don't remember
> any other complaints.

It quit complaining about the one I entered again.  I'll have to dig up
the other ones; it seems that 2.35 touching the profile prevented the
data manager in 2.28 working properly (or maybe it was just busted on
all platforms in 2.28? That sounds vaguely familiar).

>> http://html5test.com/ says No for MPEG-4, H.264, AAC, and MP3.
>> Perhaps there is a libbz2.dll needed?
>
> Probably, and possibly libzma0

Found the RPM archives, and html5test now says Yes for H.264 and AAC.  I
don't think lzma.dll is needed, only bz2.dll, but I'll include both.

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
On 05/10/16 12:00 am, Steve Wendt wrote:

> it seems that 2.35 touching the profile prevented the data manager in
> 2.28 working properly (or maybe it was just busted on all platforms
> in 2.28? That sounds vaguely familiar).

Nope, worked fine with an old copy of my profile.  I'm thinking 2.35a1
borked something, or switching back and forth to 2.28.  :-/

In any case, mail/news passwords all seem to be working, after saving
them again.  Might need to replace the lot from the old copy of the
profile, but I'll figure that out later.

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
On 05/10/16 12:33 am, Steve Wendt wrote:

> Nope, worked fine with an old copy of my profile.  I'm thinking 2.35a1
> borked something, or switching back and forth to 2.28.  :-/

Figured it out!  If anyone else is missing their passwords:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_Manager

Starting in Firefox 32, signons.sqlite is no longer used and the file
logins.json is used instead. You can try to force Firefox to re-import
the passwords from the signons.sqlite file. First, reset the
signon.importedFromSqlite preference on the about:config page to the
default value, via the right-click context menu. Next, delete the
"logins.json" file in the Firefox profile folder with Firefox closed.

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Andreas Kohl-6
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Martin Rosenfeld schrieb:

> Andreas,
>
>>> New requirement is icu (yum install libicu) for internationalization
>>> support in JavaScript
>>
>> That works in real world only with netlabs experimental repo.
>>
>> From
>> <http://rpm.netlabs.org/experimental/00/zip/icu-56_1-1_oc00.zip>
>> following files are required:
>> icudt.dll                 13.547.886 15.03.16
>> icuin.dll                  1.588.140 15.03.16
>> icuuc.dll                  1.016.679 15.03.16
>
> Is there a way that I could download and install icu-56_1-1_oc00 using
> Yum or Arca Noae Package Manager?

Yes, of course by adding the netlabs experimental repo. In ANPM it could
be done via menu entry YUM - package sources. "netlabs-exp" needs to be
activated in this case. But I would strongly advise against it.

> I already have installed "libicu."

For what reason? If any, it should be more save to simply copy the
mentioned files to the program directory or to something contained in
LIBPATH.

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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Dave Yeo-3
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Steve Wendt wrote:
> On 05/10/16 12:00 am, Steve Wendt wrote:
>
>> it seems that 2.35 touching the profile prevented the data manager in
>> 2.28 working properly (or maybe it was just busted on all platforms
>> in 2.28? That sounds vaguely familiar).
>
> Nope, worked fine with an old copy of my profile.  I'm thinking 2.35a1
> borked something, or switching back and forth to 2.28.  :-/

Mozilla no longer supports downgrading a browser and does absolutely no
testing to check profile compatibility. Luckily as you found, others do
some testing.
Dave
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Dave Yeo-3
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Steve Wendt wrote:
> On 05/09/16 10:47 pm, Steve Wendt wrote:
>
>> New mozsupport package has these:
>> http://os2news.warpstock.org/Warpzilla.html
>>
>> Although something is missing for libav to work...
>
> Should be fixed now. :)
>

Thanks for sorting this out. So much time has gone by since the upgrade
started that it is easy to forget things.
I guess another month and 38ESR will be EOL and we'll see some activity
and another release
Dave
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Re: New SeaMonkey build

Steve Wendt
On 05/10/2016 08:55 PM, Dave Yeo wrote:

> I guess another month and 38ESR will be EOL

I think that already happened with 38.8; 45esr is a few releases in already.

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Dave Yeo-3
On 05/10/16 09:25 PM, Steve Wendt wrote:
> On 05/10/2016 08:55 PM, Dave Yeo wrote:
>
>> I guess another month and 38ESR will be EOL
>
> I think that already happened with 38.8; 45esr is a few releases in
> already.

June 7, 2016, they have 2 releases for enterprises to test and then
force the upgrade on the 3rd release. 38.8.x is EOL when 45.2 is released.
38.8 and 45.1 were both released on 2016-04-25
https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar

Dave

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Steve Wendt
On 05/10/2016 10:04 PM, Dave Yeo wrote:

>>> I guess another month and 38ESR will be EOL
>>
>> I think that already happened with 38.8; 45esr is a few releases in
>> already.
>
> June 7, 2016, they have 2 releases for enterprises to test and then
> force the upgrade on the 3rd release. 38.8.x is EOL when 45.2 is released.

I guess it's semantics; when 38.8 is the last release, I call that EOL.
  You are saying it's not EOL until it's time for a new release that
won't happen.  ;-)

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Dave Yeo-3
On 05/10/16 11:08 PM, Steve Wendt wrote:

> On 05/10/2016 10:04 PM, Dave Yeo wrote:
>
>>>> I guess another month and 38ESR will be EOL
>>>
>>> I think that already happened with 38.8; 45esr is a few releases in
>>> already.
>>
>> June 7, 2016, they have 2 releases for enterprises to test and then
>> force the upgrade on the 3rd release. 38.8.x is EOL when 45.2 is
>> released.
>
> I guess it's semantics; when 38.8 is the last release, I call that EOL.
>   You are saying it's not EOL until it's time for a new release that
> won't happen. ;-)

Mozilla has stated that they'll release a security update if needed
right up to the end. So until June 7, there is still the chance of a 38.8.1.
Dave
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Steve Wendt
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On 05/08/16 04:47 pm, Dave Yeo wrote:

> MP4 and AAC should be supported in HTML5 video.

Haven't messed with this at all, but I'm curious - does it use libkva
for hardware video overlay support, or just DIVE?

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Dave Yeo-3
On 05/12/16 09:53 PM, Steve Wendt wrote:
> On 05/08/16 04:47 pm, Dave Yeo wrote:
>
>> MP4 and AAC should be supported in HTML5 video.
>
> Haven't messed with this at all, but I'm curious - does it use libkva
> for hardware video overlay support, or just DIVE?

Just DIVE
Dave
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