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Missing translation for some locales in Firefox for Android Beta (59.0b5)

Eduardo Trápani
Hi,

This string[1] has been translated, but it shows up in English in
Android, at least for Icelandic, Guarani and Esperanto.

To get there, go to Firefox Settings, then Privacy and then Clear
private data on exit. The next screen has a button on the bottom
"Cancel", that is not translated.

Any idea of why it happens or how to fix it?

[1]
https://pontoon.mozilla.org/eo/firefox-for-android/mobile/android/chrome/browser.properties/?search=inputWidgetHelper&string=71501
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Re: Missing translation for some locales in Firefox for Android Beta (59.0b5)

Delphine L
Hi Eduardo,

So the thing is that the strings you point to in Pontoon may not be that
"Cancel" button (there's no way looking at the Pontoon link to know for
sure).

Regardless, I've had this conversation already a while back with Cristian
about the Romanian version of that exact same button: in fact, in Romanian
"Cancel" appears there using a different tone (not sure if it was more
formal or not anymore) than what localizers usually use in other parts of
the app.

The reason is some menu items and dialogs, which are part of the OS itself,
may not be localizable - and will therefore unfortunately appear in the
primary OS language on the final UI. In the case of Romanian, it used the
OS Romanian version of "cancel". In your case, since Android does not have
Esperanto, it falls back to English.

My Android phone supports Icelandic, so I do see the Icelandic "Cancel"
there - but I'm pretty sure it's using the android native version of
"Cancel" in Icelandic - so not coming from our own localizations.

I had talked a while back with Android devs and they had told me something
about having no control over those strings, unless some major change to the
UI was made. It's worth starting that conversation again since it's been
some time. I'll file a bug and keep you updated.

thanks!
delphine

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Eduardo Trápani <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This string[1] has been translated, but it shows up in English in
> Android, at least for Icelandic, Guarani and Esperanto.
>
> To get there, go to Firefox Settings, then Privacy and then Clear
> private data on exit. The next screen has a button on the bottom
> "Cancel", that is not translated.
>
> Any idea of why it happens or how to fix it?
>
> [1]
> https://pontoon.mozilla.org/eo/firefox-for-android/mobile/
> android/chrome/browser.properties/?search=inputWidgetHelper&string=71501
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Re: Missing translation for some locales in Firefox for Android Beta (59.0b5)

Eduardo Trápani
I think I understand. There must be many locales affected by this then.
If there is a bug number to follow, please let us know. I wonder if
there are other places where that happens.

Thanks Delphine!

El 02/02/18 a las 16:44, Delphine L escribió:

> Hi Eduardo,
>
> So the thing is that the strings you point to in Pontoon may not be
> that "Cancel" button (there's no way looking at the Pontoon link to
> know for sure).
>
> Regardless, I've had this conversation already a while back with
> Cristian about the Romanian version of that exact same button: in
> fact, in Romanian "Cancel" appears there using a different tone (not
> sure if it was more formal or not anymore) than what localizers
> usually use in other parts of the app.
>
> The reason is some menu items and dialogs, which are part of the OS
> itself, may not be localizable - and will therefore unfortunately
> appear in the primary OS language on the final UI. In the case of
> Romanian, it used the OS Romanian version of "cancel". In your case,
> since Android does not have Esperanto, it falls back to English.
>
> My Android phone supports Icelandic, so I do see the Icelandic
> "Cancel" there - but I'm pretty sure it's using the android native
> version of "Cancel" in Icelandic - so not coming from our own
> localizations.
>
> I had talked a while back with Android devs and they had told me
> something about having no control over those strings, unless some
> major change to the UI was made. It's worth starting that conversation
> again since it's been some time. I'll file a bug and keep you updated.
>
> thanks!
> delphine
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Eduardo Trápani <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     This string[1] has been translated, but it shows up in English in
>     Android, at least for Icelandic, Guarani and Esperanto.
>
>     To get there, go to Firefox Settings, then Privacy and then Clear
>     private data on exit. The next screen has a button on the bottom
>     "Cancel", that is not translated.
>
>     Any idea of why it happens or how to fix it?
>
>     [1]
>     https://pontoon.mozilla.org/eo/firefox-for-android/mobile/android/chrome/browser.properties/?search=inputWidgetHelper&string=71501
>     <https://pontoon.mozilla.org/eo/firefox-for-android/mobile/android/chrome/browser.properties/?search=inputWidgetHelper&string=71501>
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>     [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: Missing translation for some locales in Firefox for Android Beta (59.0b5)

Delphine L
Yes - what surprises me though is that the other button right next to it
*is* localized. So it may not be that hard to fix in the end... (it's been
too long since I spoke with mobile team about this to remember for sure the
outcome of the specific discussion :/)

Same thing happens here btw: go to Firefox Settings, then Clear private
data, look at "Cancel" button there.

So I filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435416

Let's see what happens :)

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Eduardo Trápani <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I think I understand. There must be many locales affected by this then. If
> there is a bug number to follow, please let us know. I wonder if there are
> other places where that happens.
>
> Thanks Delphine!
> El 02/02/18 a las 16:44, Delphine L escribió:
>
> Hi Eduardo,
>
> So the thing is that the strings you point to in Pontoon may not be that
> "Cancel" button (there's no way looking at the Pontoon link to know for
> sure).
>
> Regardless, I've had this conversation already a while back with Cristian
> about the Romanian version of that exact same button: in fact, in Romanian
> "Cancel" appears there using a different tone (not sure if it was more
> formal or not anymore) than what localizers usually use in other parts of
> the app.
>
> The reason is some menu items and dialogs, which are part of the OS
> itself, may not be localizable - and will therefore unfortunately appear in
> the primary OS language on the final UI. In the case of Romanian, it used
> the OS Romanian version of "cancel". In your case, since Android does not
> have Esperanto, it falls back to English.
>
> My Android phone supports Icelandic, so I do see the Icelandic "Cancel"
> there - but I'm pretty sure it's using the android native version of
> "Cancel" in Icelandic - so not coming from our own localizations.
>
> I had talked a while back with Android devs and they had told me something
> about having no control over those strings, unless some major change to the
> UI was made. It's worth starting that conversation again since it's been
> some time. I'll file a bug and keep you updated.
>
> thanks!
> delphine
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Eduardo Trápani <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This string[1] has been translated, but it shows up in English in
>> Android, at least for Icelandic, Guarani and Esperanto.
>>
>> To get there, go to Firefox Settings, then Privacy and then Clear
>> private data on exit. The next screen has a button on the bottom
>> "Cancel", that is not translated.
>>
>> Any idea of why it happens or how to fix it?
>>
>> [1]
>> https://pontoon.mozilla.org/eo/firefox-for-android/mobile/an
>> droid/chrome/browser.properties/?search=inputWidgetHelper&string=71501
>> _______________________________________________
>> dev-l10n mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Delphine
>
>
>


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