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Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Francesco Lodolo [:flod]
Hi localizers,

As hinted in a previous message, we are currently working on improving
the experience in Firefox for multilingual users. That includes, among
other things:
1) Adding a language switcher in Preferences to switch to another
language that is already available on the system (i.e. already installed
as a language pack).
2) Adding UI to preferences to manage basic interaction with dictionaries.
3) Add the ability, on release, to install a new language directly from
Preferences (it would download, install and enable a language pack from
AMO).

As part of #3, we also want to install dictionaries for that language.
For example: user chooses to install Italian on an English build, the
system will download the language pack and also install the Italian
dictionary.

In order to do that, we need a curated list of dictionaries that will be
installed with each locale, and we need your help and feedback to make
sure that list is meaningful and provides a good experience.

Here's the first version of this list:
https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/
You can also see the complete list of dictionaries available on AMO:
https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/complete.html

This list was created by:
* Picking one dictionary when language has more than one available,
usually looking at the number of users on AMO. The complete list provide
a list of such locales.
* Verifying that the dictionary can be installed.

Ideally, there should be only one dictionary per language, but there can
be exceptions. For example, the current list would also install de-CH
and de-AT for German.

Here's the *help we need from you*:
* Install the dictionary currently suggested for your language, and
check that it provides a good experience. If that's not the case, we
should remove it.
* Determine if you need more than one dictionary, and why that's the case.

You can provide feedback by replying in this email thread, or in the
tracking bug
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481375

Note that this list will keep receiving updates in the future, for
example if a new dictionary become available, or if we start shipping a
new locale.

Francesco
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Re: Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Emin Mastizada
Hi Francesco, the dictionary az-IR in that list is Iranian version of
Azerbaijani.

This one is created using official dictionary:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/azerbaijani-spellchecker/

Both dictionaries are missing hunspell grammer rules and we are working
on solving these issues. Also, the Iranian version updated 3 years ago
and homepage has no information about it.


On 07.08.2018 10:07, Francesco Lodolo [:flod] wrote:

> Hi localizers,
>
> As hinted in a previous message, we are currently working on improving
> the experience in Firefox for multilingual users. That includes, among
> other things:
> 1) Adding a language switcher in Preferences to switch to another
> language that is already available on the system (i.e. already
> installed as a language pack).
> 2) Adding UI to preferences to manage basic interaction with
> dictionaries.
> 3) Add the ability, on release, to install a new language directly
> from Preferences (it would download, install and enable a language
> pack from AMO).
>
> As part of #3, we also want to install dictionaries for that language.
> For example: user chooses to install Italian on an English build, the
> system will download the language pack and also install the Italian
> dictionary.
>
> In order to do that, we need a curated list of dictionaries that will
> be installed with each locale, and we need your help and feedback to
> make sure that list is meaningful and provides a good experience.
>
> Here's the first version of this list:
> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/
> You can also see the complete list of dictionaries available on AMO:
> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/complete.html
>
> This list was created by:
> * Picking one dictionary when language has more than one available,
> usually looking at the number of users on AMO. The complete list
> provide a list of such locales.
> * Verifying that the dictionary can be installed.
>
> Ideally, there should be only one dictionary per language, but there
> can be exceptions. For example, the current list would also install
> de-CH and de-AT for German.
>
> Here's the *help we need from you*:
> * Install the dictionary currently suggested for your language, and
> check that it provides a good experience. If that's not the case, we
> should remove it.
> * Determine if you need more than one dictionary, and why that's the
> case.
>
> You can provide feedback by replying in this email thread, or in the
> tracking bug
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481375
>
> Note that this list will keep receiving updates in the future, for
> example if a new dictionary become available, or if we start shipping
> a new locale.
>
> Francesco
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
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Re: Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Francesco Lodolo [:flod]
Thanks Emin,
That's interesting. The language-tools page doesn't have anything listed
for 'az', AMO's API returns the 'az-IR' one, not the 'az' one you linked to.

I'll try to understand why that wouldn't be the case (maybe because it's
marked as 'experimental'). In the meantime, I might need to exclude it.

Francesco

> Hi Francesco, the dictionary az-IR in that list is Iranian version of
> Azerbaijani.
>
> This one is created using official dictionary:
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/azerbaijani-spellchecker/
>
> Both dictionaries are missing hunspell grammer rules and we are working
> on solving these issues. Also, the Iranian version updated 3 years ago
> and homepage has no information about it.
>
>
> On 07.08.2018 10:07, Francesco Lodolo [:flod] wrote:
>> Hi localizers,
>>
>> As hinted in a previous message, we are currently working on improving
>> the experience in Firefox for multilingual users. That includes, among
>> other things:
>> 1) Adding a language switcher in Preferences to switch to another
>> language that is already available on the system (i.e. already
>> installed as a language pack).
>> 2) Adding UI to preferences to manage basic interaction with
>> dictionaries.
>> 3) Add the ability, on release, to install a new language directly
>> from Preferences (it would download, install and enable a language
>> pack from AMO).
>>
>> As part of #3, we also want to install dictionaries for that language.
>> For example: user chooses to install Italian on an English build, the
>> system will download the language pack and also install the Italian
>> dictionary.
>>
>> In order to do that, we need a curated list of dictionaries that will
>> be installed with each locale, and we need your help and feedback to
>> make sure that list is meaningful and provides a good experience.
>>
>> Here's the first version of this list:
>> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/
>> You can also see the complete list of dictionaries available on AMO:
>> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/complete.html
>>
>> This list was created by:
>> * Picking one dictionary when language has more than one available,
>> usually looking at the number of users on AMO. The complete list
>> provide a list of such locales.
>> * Verifying that the dictionary can be installed.
>>
>> Ideally, there should be only one dictionary per language, but there
>> can be exceptions. For example, the current list would also install
>> de-CH and de-AT for German.
>>
>> Here's the *help we need from you*:
>> * Install the dictionary currently suggested for your language, and
>> check that it provides a good experience. If that's not the case, we
>> should remove it.
>> * Determine if you need more than one dictionary, and why that's the
>> case.
>>
>> You can provide feedback by replying in this email thread, or in the
>> tracking bug
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481375
>>
>> Note that this list will keep receiving updates in the future, for
>> example if a new dictionary become available, or if we start shipping
>> a new locale.
>>
>> Francesco
>> _______________________________________________
>> dev-l10n mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n

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Re: Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Michal Stanke-2
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Hi Flod.

Great, I will add Czech dictionary to the list later today.

A quick question, what will be the scenario when the user does not need to
switch, e.g.:
- new installations directly in the target language
- existing installations in the targer language

Will those be offered to install the dictionary too?

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Dne út 7. 8. 2018 9:09 uživatel Francesco Lodolo [:flod] <[hidden email]>
napsal:

> Hi localizers,
>
> As hinted in a previous message, we are currently working on improving
> the experience in Firefox for multilingual users. That includes, among
> other things:
> 1) Adding a language switcher in Preferences to switch to another
> language that is already available on the system (i.e. already installed
> as a language pack).
> 2) Adding UI to preferences to manage basic interaction with dictionaries.
> 3) Add the ability, on release, to install a new language directly from
> Preferences (it would download, install and enable a language pack from
> AMO).
>
> As part of #3, we also want to install dictionaries for that language.
> For example: user chooses to install Italian on an English build, the
> system will download the language pack and also install the Italian
> dictionary.
>
> In order to do that, we need a curated list of dictionaries that will be
> installed with each locale, and we need your help and feedback to make
> sure that list is meaningful and provides a good experience.
>
> Here's the first version of this list:
> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/
> You can also see the complete list of dictionaries available on AMO:
> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/complete.html
>
> This list was created by:
> * Picking one dictionary when language has more than one available,
> usually looking at the number of users on AMO. The complete list provide
> a list of such locales.
> * Verifying that the dictionary can be installed.
>
> Ideally, there should be only one dictionary per language, but there can
> be exceptions. For example, the current list would also install de-CH
> and de-AT for German.
>
> Here's the *help we need from you*:
> * Install the dictionary currently suggested for your language, and
> check that it provides a good experience. If that's not the case, we
> should remove it.
> * Determine if you need more than one dictionary, and why that's the case.
>
> You can provide feedback by replying in this email thread, or in the
> tracking bug
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481375
>
> Note that this list will keep receiving updates in the future, for
> example if a new dictionary become available, or if we start shipping a
> new locale.
>
> Francesco
> _______________________________________________
> dev-l10n mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>
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Re: Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Julen Ruiz Aizpuru
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Francesco,

All looking good for 'eu'.

Many thanks for pushing forward with these series of improvements.

Julen.
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Re: Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Francesco Lodolo [:flod]
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Il 07/08/18 09:26, Michal Stanke ha scritto:

> Hi Flod.
>
> Great, I will add Czech dictionary to the list later today.
>
> A quick question, what will be the scenario when the user does not
> need to switch, e.g.:
> - new installations directly in the target language
> - existing installations in the targer language
>
> Will those be offered to install the dictionary too?
It's not planned as part of the this first iteration, but it's something
we want to consider, also based on the data we'll collect.

Technically, the same type of check could happen the first time a
profile is started, downloading the dictionary if it's not available.
That would also allow to stop shipping dictionaries as part of the
builds, which is definitely interesting in a scenario with multi-locales
builds.

Francesco
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Re: Help us create a curated list of dictionaries for each shipping locale in Firefox

Enrique Estévez Fernández
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Hi Francesco,

All looking good for 'gl'.

Regards.

2018-08-07 9:07 GMT+02:00 Francesco Lodolo [:flod] <[hidden email]>:

> Hi localizers,
>
> As hinted in a previous message, we are currently working on improving the
> experience in Firefox for multilingual users. That includes, among other
> things:
> 1) Adding a language switcher in Preferences to switch to another language
> that is already available on the system (i.e. already installed as a
> language pack).
> 2) Adding UI to preferences to manage basic interaction with dictionaries.
> 3) Add the ability, on release, to install a new language directly from
> Preferences (it would download, install and enable a language pack from
> AMO).
>
> As part of #3, we also want to install dictionaries for that language. For
> example: user chooses to install Italian on an English build, the system
> will download the language pack and also install the Italian dictionary.
>
> In order to do that, we need a curated list of dictionaries that will be
> installed with each locale, and we need your help and feedback to make sure
> that list is meaningful and provides a good experience.
>
> Here's the first version of this list: https://mozilla-l10n.github.io
> /firefox-dictionaries/
> You can also see the complete list of dictionaries available on AMO:
> https://mozilla-l10n.github.io/firefox-dictionaries/complete.html
>
> This list was created by:
> * Picking one dictionary when language has more than one available,
> usually looking at the number of users on AMO. The complete list provide a
> list of such locales.
> * Verifying that the dictionary can be installed.
>
> Ideally, there should be only one dictionary per language, but there can
> be exceptions. For example, the current list would also install de-CH and
> de-AT for German.
>
> Here's the *help we need from you*:
> * Install the dictionary currently suggested for your language, and check
> that it provides a good experience. If that's not the case, we should
> remove it.
> * Determine if you need more than one dictionary, and why that's the case.
>
> You can provide feedback by replying in this email thread, or in the
> tracking bug
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1481375
>
> Note that this list will keep receiving updates in the future, for example
> if a new dictionary become available, or if we start shipping a new locale.
>
> Francesco
> _______________________________________________
> dev-l10n mailing list
> [hidden email]
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-l10n
>
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