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David hilbert Poehlman
> I gave this a spin on the Mac and thought others might like to try  
> it out.

> www.talklets.com
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Re: yet another talking web app:

David hilbert Poehlman
Sorry folk,  I tried this with safari.  Anyone able to report on  
success with FF?

Thanks!

On Jan 29, 2007, at 1:17 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

> I gave this a spin on the Mac and thought others might like to try  
> it out.

> www.talklets.com
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Re: yet another talking web app:

Ken Saunders-2
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On Jan 29, 1:51 pm, David Poehlman
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> Sorry folk,  I tried this with safari.  Anyone able to report on
> success with FF?
It's ok.
It does work in Firefox but how much use would it be to users already
using screen readers?
I have to test it out more.
Highlight didn't work and the tooltips didn't display all of the time.
It's a little clumsy, but it does have great potential.
I may consider it for one of my websites, we'll see what else it can
do.
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Ken Saunders-2
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By the way, it didn't work at all in IE6.
I don't know about IE7 because I un-installed IE7
Ken

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Re: yet another talking web app:

David hilbert Poehlman
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When ever I see these, I think they are wonderfull, but it's like an  
accessible bathroom at the top of the stairs.

On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Ken Saunders wrote:



On Jan 29, 1:51 pm, David Poehlman
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Sorry folk,  I tried this with safari.  Anyone able to report on
> success with FF?
It's ok.
It does work in Firefox but how much use would it be to users already
using screen readers?
I have to test it out more.
Highlight didn't work and the tooltips didn't display all of the time.
It's a little clumsy, but it does have great potential.
I may consider it for one of my websites, we'll see what else it can
do.
Ken

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Re: yet another talking web app:

Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
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Ken Saunders wrote:

> It does work in Firefox but how much use would it be to users already
> using screen readers?

As far as I can understand, it's aimed at users who either don't
normally use screen readers (e.g. those browsing webpages in an
unfamiliar language and those with reading comprehension problems) or
usually use a screen reader or magnifier but in this case are using a
public machine without that assistive technology.

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Re: yet another talking web app:

crayne
What about people with low vision?  They might be able to see well enough
to point at a block of text, but need to have the actual text read to them.

Susan
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Ken Saunders wrote:
to users already
> using screen readers?

As far as I can understand, it's aimed at users who either don't
use screen readers (e.g. those browsing webpages in an
and those with reading comprehension problems) or
reader or magnifier but in this case are using a
assistive technology.
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Re: yet another talking web app:

Ken Saunders-2
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On Jan 30, 9:50 am, Susan Crayne <[hidden email]> wrote:
> What about people with low vision?  They might be able to see well enough
> to point at a block of text, but need to have the actual text read to them.
>
> Susan
> Hawthorne, NY  10532  USA

True but,
I have low vision and when necessary I use Charles Chen's CLiCk, Speak
talking browser extension.
(until I hopefully get ZoomText). http://clickspeak.clcworld.net/ .
It is only available for Firefox which is yet another reason to get
Firefox. :)
It has a toolbar with simple buttons and options or you can access it
through the context menu.
Ken

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Re: yet another talking web app:

Steve Lee-3
And unlike BrowseAloud it works on all sites.

On 30 Jan 2007 08:29:18 -0800, Ken Saunders <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On Jan 30, 9:50 am, Susan Crayne <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > What about people with low vision?  They might be able to see well enough
> > to point at a block of text, but need to have the actual text read to them.
> >
> > Susan
> > Hawthorne, NY  10532  USA
>
> True but,
> I have low vision and when necessary I use Charles Chen's CLiCk, Speak
> talking browser extension.
> (until I hopefully get ZoomText). http://clickspeak.clcworld.net/ .
> It is only available for Firefox which is yet another reason to get
> Firefox. :)
> It has a toolbar with simple buttons and options or you can access it
> through the context menu.
> Ken
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> Ken Saunders
> Administrator
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Re: yet another talking web app:

Tom Brunet
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Worked fine for me on both IE6 and Firefox 2.
Tom

Ken Saunders wrote:
> By the way, it didn't work at all in IE6.
> I don't know about IE7 because I un-installed IE7
> Ken
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Re: yet another talking web app:

Aaron Leventhal-3
Okay, what works well and what doesn't?

We need an entry for the wiki on
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Assistive_technology_compatibility

Does someone volunteer to do that?

- Aaron


Tom Brunet wrote:
> Worked fine for me on both IE6 and Firefox 2.
> Tom
>
> Ken Saunders wrote:
>> By the way, it didn't work at all in IE6.
>> I don't know about IE7 because I un-installed IE7
>> Ken
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Re: yet another talking web app:

Ken Saunders-2
On Jan 30, 3:08 pm, Aaron Leventhal <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> Okay, what works well and what doesn't?
>
> We need an entry for the wiki onhttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Assistive_technology_compatibility
>
> Does someone volunteer to do that?
>
I simply could not get it to work in IE6.
I even closed Firefox and logged out but still no go.
I also do not like the delay.
After using the highlighter to get it to read, it would
sometimes select the whole page instead of just the paragraph
that I wanted read.
The text selection is bouncy, meaning that it jumps around to quickly.
I didn't notice a speed option to slow it down.

Like I've said, it has potential.
Perhaps it would be better as a browser extension.
I'm all for more accessibility add-ons for browsers,
it's nice to give people choices.

But, why not just use CLiCk, Speak.
There are no time limitations to it,
it's intuitive, free, and you have the choice to
select text for the extension to read the text, or
there's an auto read feature which highlights the
text as it is reading so there are less mouse movements.
Even Accessibar's reader is better.

I will say that the voices are nice and clear.

I'm not trying to tear it apart, I just personally
don't care for it.
Ken

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> - Aaron
>
> Tom Brunet wrote:
> > Worked fine for me on both IE6 and Firefox 2.
> > Tom
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> > Ken Saunders wrote:
> >> By the way, it didn't work at all in IE6.
> >> I don't know about IE7 because I un-installed IE7
> >> Ken


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