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Zbigniew Braniecki-4
Hi gals & guys,

Just a quick note. There was a minor update to fxhome and we picked it
up with our Verbatim tooly.

So, what we have right now is a slightly updated (11 new strings)
template that lives in
http://localize.mozilla.org/templates/fxhome/LC_MESSAGES/

I already applied it on a test locale (I used polish since I claim to
speak it)

In order to get those new strings into your locale, you just need to go
to your equivalent of
http://localize.mozilla.org/pl/fxhome/admin_files.html and click on
"update the files from templates".

If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist you :)

cheers!
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Re: Firefox Home update

flod
  Il 20/09/10 17.53, Zbigniew Braniecki ha scritto:
> If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
> start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist you :)
Hi Gandalf,
what should be do when we're done? Notify someone (bugzilla?), test with
the VNC machine, something else?

Francesco

P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep that in
mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).
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Re: Firefox Home update

Zbigniew Braniecki-4
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On 9/20/10 6:25 PM, flod wrote:
> Hi Gandalf,
> what should be do when we're done? Notify someone (bugzilla?), test with
> the VNC machine, something else?

I think you're good to go once you have it there. We may create a bug
tomorrow to collect translations and convert them to .strings files, but
for now, that's all :)

> P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
> long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
> es-AR seem to have a similar translation)

Yea, all slavic langauges will have sth similar to "klucz synchronizacji"

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Re: Firefox Home update

Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez
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flod escribió:
> P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
> long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
> es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep that in
> mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).


I guess you, like me, will also have problems with "Wrong Sync Key"
("Clave de sincronización errónea"). I've considered abbreviating
"sincronización" to "sincr." but I'm not too sure that it will be
understood. It would be nice to know when strings have width constraints.

Ricardo

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Re: Firefox Home update

marcoos
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On 20 Wrz, 18:45, Zbigniew Braniecki <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
> > long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
> > es-AR seem to have a similar translation)
>
> Yea, all slavic langauges will have sth similar to "klucz synchronizacji"

We actually use "klucz Sync" in Polish Firefox 4 (since we're treating
"Firefox Sync" as a sort of a brand name), and, as a bonus, it's short
enough not to break anything in Fx Home. :)

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Re: Firefox Home update

Fjoerfoks
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It is my belief that "Sync" in this case is a sort of brandname.
Indeed in Frisian it would be longer like syngronisaasje.
Instead of abbreviating I choose to let it stay "Sync" with capital S,
which is common for brandnames. Sync key then turns into Sync-kaai for
Frisian.

Wim

2010/9/20 Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez <[hidden email]>

> flod escribió:
> > P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
> > long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
> > es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep that in
> > mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).
>
>
> I guess you, like me, will also have problems with "Wrong Sync Key"
> ("Clave de sincronización errónea"). I've considered abbreviating
> "sincronización" to "sincr." but I'm not too sure that it will be
> understood. It would be nice to know when strings have width constraints.
>
> Ricardo
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Re: Firefox Home update

Cédric Corazza
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Le 20/09/2010 22:13, Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez a écrit :

> flod escribió:
>> P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
>> long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
>> es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep that in
>> mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).
>
>
> I guess you, like me, will also have problems with "Wrong Sync Key"
> ("Clave de sincronización errónea"). I've considered abbreviating
> "sincronización" to "sincr." but I'm not too sure that it will be
> understood. It would be nice to know when strings have width constraints.
>
> Ricardo
>

Ricardo,

We also have some issues with the French site, but this is not the worst
thing: the app is screwed up.
All accented letters disappeared from the UI, our last modifications
have not been taken, some button labels are cut, etc...
These are the first reports from our users...
I will file a bug tomorrow evening in bmo (no time currently), we have
already a pending bug in our own Bugzilla installation.
This app will (is) really looking like crap for ou users.
A bad move in the Apple world imo.

Cédric
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Re: Firefox Home update

Selim Şumlu
On 20 Eylül, 16:36, Cédric Corazza <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Le 20/09/2010 22:13, Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez a écrit :
>
> > flod escribió:
> >> P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
> >> long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
> >> es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep that in
> >> mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).
>
> > I guess you, like me, will also have problems with "Wrong Sync Key"
> > ("Clave de sincronización errónea"). I've considered abbreviating
> > "sincronización" to "sincr." but I'm not too sure that it will be
> > understood. It would be nice to know when strings have width constraints.
>
> > Ricardo
>
> Ricardo,
>
> We also have some issues with the French site, but this is not the worst
> thing: the app is screwed up.
> All accented letters disappeared from the UI, our last modifications
> have not been taken, some button labels are cut, etc...
> These are the first reports from our users...
> I will file a bug tomorrow evening in bmo (no time currently), we have
> already a pending bug in our own Bugzilla installation.
> This app will (is) really looking like crap for ou users.
> A bad move in the Apple world imo.
>
> Cédric

FYI, there's no problem with Turkish accented characters.

But I didn't use Verbatim and handed out translations in their
original file format instead.

Selim
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Re: Firefox Home update

Seth Bindernagel
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flod wrote:
>  Il 20/09/10 17.53, Zbigniew Braniecki ha scritto:
>> If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
>> start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist
>> you :)
> Hi Gandalf,
> what should be do when we're done? Notify someone (bugzilla?), test
> with the VNC machine, something else?

Hi Flod,

Thank you for raising the question.

It may be redundant at this point, but I reopened the bug for each
locale that covers the Application's l10n.  When you are finished with
the work, even if your locale is already finished, please just close
that bug.  I'll use that as a way to track open tasks across all locales.

For testing, I will talk to the dev team about the iPhone emulator.  I
believe it should still be working.

Hope that helps and sorry if there was any confusion.  I didn't get a
chance to tell Gandalf how we managed tasks for this project last time
since he was on vacation for the duration of the project.  He made the
announcement yesterday before I could reopen all the bugs to track our
progress.  We'll coordinate better next time.

Best,

Seth
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Re: Firefox Home update

Seth Bindernagel
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flod wrote:
> P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be
> awfully long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but
> fr and es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep
> that in mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).

I have passed this feedback to the developer team.  They filed bug
596381 (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596381) to
highlight l10n changes for this release.  I used that bug number as a
blocker against the main project tracker.
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Re: Firefox Home update

Seth Bindernagel
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Cédric Corazza wrote:

> Le 20/09/2010 22:13, Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez a écrit :
>> flod escribió:
>>> P.S. A note for developers: the translation of "Sync Key" can be awfully
>>> long (for example "chiave di sincronizzazione" in Italian, but fr and
>>> es-AR seem to have a similar translation) and they should keep that in
>>> mind (I know they'll hate us for this ;-) ).
>> I guess you, like me, will also have problems with "Wrong Sync Key"
>> ("Clave de sincronización errónea"). I've considered abbreviating
>> "sincronización" to "sincr." but I'm not too sure that it will be
>> understood. It would be nice to know when strings have width constraints.
>>
>> Ricardo
>>
>
> Ricardo,
>
> We also have some issues with the French site, but this is not the worst
> thing: the app is screwed up.
> All accented letters disappeared from the UI, our last modifications
> have not been taken, some button labels are cut, etc...
> These are the first reports from our users...
> I will file a bug tomorrow evening in bmo (no time currently), we have
> already a pending bug in our own Bugzilla installation.
> This app will (is) really looking like crap for ou users.
> A bad move in the Apple world imo.

On a separate email to the dev-team, CCing Cedric, I've reported this
issue.  If it is a bug we can fix, we will and Cedric can report the
results back to us.
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Re: Firefox Home update

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On 21 Wrz, 10:15, Selim Şumlu <[hidden email]> wrote:
> FYI, there's no problem with Turkish accented characters.
>
> But I didn't use Verbatim and handed out translations in their
> original file format instead.

FWIW, all Polish characters (ąćęłńóśźż) display correctly in Firefox
Home on my iPod, and we used Verbatim for localizing the app.

Cédric, did you test your localization through VNC before release?

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Re: Firefox Home update

Cédric Corazza
Le 21/09/2010 23:26, marcoos a écrit :

> On 21 Wrz, 10:15, Selim Şumlu <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> FYI, there's no problem with Turkish accented characters.
>>
>> But I didn't use Verbatim and handed out translations in their
>> original file format instead.
>
> FWIW, all Polish characters (ąćęłńóśźż) display correctly in Firefox
> Home on my iPod, and we used Verbatim for localizing the app.
>
> Cédric, did you test your localization through VNC before release?
>
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Hi Marcoos,

Yes I did, and I didn't notice this.
I couldn't be able to dig into this before this weekend with the user
whom reported this.

Cédric
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Re: Firefox Home update

Cédric Corazza
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Hi gandalf,
I can't update the French localization :
http://localize.mozilla.org/fr/fxhome/admin_files.html gives me "You
do not have rights to administer Firefox Home [French]."
Could you fix it?
Thanks

Cédric
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Re: Firefox Home update

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> Hi gandalf,
> I can't update the French localization :
> http://localize.mozilla.org/fr/fxhome/admin_files.html gives me "You
> do not have rights to administer Firefox Home [French]."
> Could you fix it?
> Thanks
>
> Cédric
>
I've got same error for http://localize.mozilla.org/ru/fxhome/admin_files.html
Please, fix it.


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Re: Firefox Home update

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Alexander L. Slovesnik wrote:

>> Hi gandalf,
>> I can't update the French localization :
>> http://localize.mozilla.org/fr/fxhome/admin_files.html gives me "You
>> do not have rights to administer Firefox Home [French]."
>> Could you fix it?
>> Thanks
>>
>> Cédric
>>
> I've got same error for http://localize.mozilla.org/ru/fxhome/admin_files.html
> Please, fix it.

I updated both Alexander and Cédric's permissions.

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Re: Firefox Home update

Pavel Cvrcek (Mozilla.cz)
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Dne 20.9.2010 17:53, Zbigniew Braniecki napsal(a):
> If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
> start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist you :)

I tried to update Firefox Home translation for Czech but looks like
something is wrong. After update I still see "300 words need attention"
(0% translated).

How can I fix it? Firefox Home 1.0.2 was translated to czech. And yes, I
clicked on "update the files from templates".

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Re: Firefox Home update

Seth Bindernagel


Pavel Cvrcek wrote:

> Dne 20.9.2010 17:53, Zbigniew Braniecki napsal(a):
>> If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
>> start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist
>> you :)
>
> I tried to update Firefox Home translation for Czech but looks like
> something is wrong. After update I still see "300 words need
> attention" (0% translated).
>
> How can I fix it? Firefox Home 1.0.2 was translated to czech. And yes,
> I clicked on "update the files from templates".

Not sure what is going on.  I think I'll need to review this with
Gandalf or with Dwayne from the Pootle.  And, just to be certain, I also
"updated from templates" and saw no changes.  :/

-sethb
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Re: Firefox Home update

Dwayne Bailey
On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 16:19 +0100, Seth Bindernagel wrote:

>
> Pavel Cvrcek wrote:
> > Dne 20.9.2010 17:53, Zbigniew Braniecki napsal(a):
> >> If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
> >> start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist
> >> you :)
> >
> > I tried to update Firefox Home translation for Czech but looks like
> > something is wrong. After update I still see "300 words need
> > attention" (0% translated).
> >
> > How can I fix it? Firefox Home 1.0.2 was translated to czech. And yes,
> > I clicked on "update the files from templates".
>
> Not sure what is going on.  I think I'll need to review this with
> Gandalf or with Dwayne from the Pootle.  And, just to be certain, I also
> "updated from templates" and saw no changes.  :/

Was Czech translated on Pootle?  I suspect it wasn't as there isn't any
'Last Activity' info.

Its not a problem, we simply need to recover the translations using the
Translate Toolkit:

prop2po -t en-US-strings cs-strings cs-po

Should do it.  Then checking that the names of the files match, updating
to the latest strings and we're off.

Seth if you need help with this just give me a shout and I can help,
otherwise it should be that hard.  The hardest part is making sure that
you use the same en-US .strings files that the CS .strings where
translated from.

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Re: Firefox Home update

Vito Smolej-3
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On Sep 20, 5:53 pm, Zbigniew Braniecki <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi gals & guys,
>
> Just a quick note. There was a minor update to fxhome and we picked it
> up with our Verbatim tooly.
>
> So, what we have right now is a slightly updated (11 new strings)
> template that lives inhttp://localize.mozilla.org/templates/fxhome/LC_MESSAGES/
>
> I already applied it on a test locale (I used polish since I claim to
> speak it)
>
> In order to get those new strings into your locale, you just need to go
> to your equivalent ofhttp://localize.mozilla.org/pl/fxhome/admin_files.htmland click on
> "update the files from templates".
>
> If you have any problem with that, it doesn't work, or strange things
> start to happen once you try, let me know. I'll be happy to assist you :)
>
> cheers!
> gandalf
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>
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Hi Gandalf:

we may be dragging our feet, but faster than it may appear (g) ... Can
you please add sl to the selected for the fxhome? I can select in the
project settings but i do not get it activated.

TiA

smo
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