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FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

WaltS48-9
Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
tomorrow. 😲

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226>

I would advise using mozilla.support.calendar, m.s.firefox,
m.s.seamonkey and m.s.thunderbird for your support questions.

The official support forums on the web are accessible from
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/> (Sorry, no SeaMonkey)

Unofficial support can be found at mozillaZine
<http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php> (Has SeaMonkey)

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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Luis-2
WaltS48 wrote:

> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
> tomorrow. 😲
>
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226>
>
> I would advise using mozilla.support.calendar, m.s.firefox,
> m.s.seamonkey and m.s.thunderbird for your support questions.
>
> The official support forums on the web are accessible from
> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/> (Sorry, no SeaMonkey)
>
> Unofficial support can be found at mozillaZine
> <http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php> (Has SeaMonkey)
>
The truth is that all newsgroups will disappear from Internet sooner or
later. The reason is that most users post nonsense useful for nothing.
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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

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On 06/03/2018 05:38 PM, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:

> On 04/06/2018 01:26, Luis wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
>>> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
>>> tomorrow. 😲
>>>
>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226>
>>>
>>> I would advise using mozilla.support.calendar, m.s.firefox,
>>> m.s.seamonkey and m.s.thunderbird for your support questions.
>>>
>>> The official support forums on the web are accessible from
>>> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/> (Sorry, no SeaMonkey)
>>>
>>> Unofficial support can be found at mozillaZine
>>> <http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php> (Has SeaMonkey)
>>>
>> The truth is that all newsgroups will disappear from Internet sooner
>> or later. The reason is that most users post nonsense useful for nothing.
>
> This applies to forums as well.  I visit Microsoft forums and I am
> really disappointed that moderators aren't doing anything to stop abuse
> of the facilities.

But you're a foul-mouthed troll who regularly abuses other win10 users
on the alt.comp.os.windows-10 newsgroup whenever you don't like them
drawing attention to windows 10 problems. You frequently set followup-to
headers to linux groups and accuse them of being the source of trolling
that originated with you.

> They are after number of posters rather than quality
> of posters and the solutions to the problem in question.

You're at the bottom of the barrel and widely killfiled on
alt.comp.os.windows-10, nobody really likes you there.

> Perhaps paid service might help avoid this!!  Just a thought.


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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Mozilla - General mailing list
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On 6/4/2018 1:26 AM, Luis wrote:

> WaltS48 wrote:
>> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
>> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
>> tomorrow. 😲
>>
>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226>
>>
>> I would advise using mozilla.support.calendar, m.s.firefox,
>> m.s.seamonkey and m.s.thunderbird for your support questions.
>>
>> The official support forums on the web are accessible from
>> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/> (Sorry, no SeaMonkey)
>>
>> Unofficial support can be found at mozillaZine
>> <http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php> (Has SeaMonkey)
>>
> The truth is that all newsgroups will disappear from Internet sooner or
> later. The reason is that most users post nonsense useful for nothing.

You have a point but I hope you are wrong.  I am in one where there are
still good discussions.

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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Wolf K.
On 2018-06-04 02:33, Martin Edwards wrote:

> On 6/4/2018 1:26 AM, Luis wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
>>> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
>>> tomorrow. 😲
>>>
>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226>
>>>
>>> I would advise using mozilla.support.calendar, m.s.firefox,
>>> m.s.seamonkey and m.s.thunderbird for your support questions.
>>>
>>> The official support forums on the web are accessible from
>>> <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/> (Sorry, no SeaMonkey)
>>>
>>> Unofficial support can be found at mozillaZine
>>> <http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php> (Has SeaMonkey)
>>>
>> The truth is that all newsgroups will disappear from Internet sooner
>> or later. The reason is that most users post nonsense useful for nothing.
>
> You have a point but I hope you are wrong.  I am in one where there are
> still good discussions.
  Most newsgroups I used to follow are dead. The few that still have
some traffic have participants who are polite, respect each other, and
follow both explicitly suggested and informal unwritten rules. They do
occasionally chat off-topic, but they don't rant.

Some binary groups were destroyed by flooders (using Power Post and
yEnc), or off-topic posts (mostly politics and porn). But most of the
groups just faded out as people's interests shifted, and social media
offered supposedly "free" alternatives. Some current groups will
continue only as long as current users are still alive. That includes
me: I've had a couple of "incidents" that remind me I'm much closer to
the end than the beginning of my life.

I've been part of thsi group for quite a while, and have had many
interesting conversations here. I'll be sorry to see it shut down.

"Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish."

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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

tanstaafl-2
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On 6/3/2018, 7:51:13 PM, WaltS48 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
> tomorrow. 😲

Is this just the newsgroup? Or the email list as well?
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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

WaltS48-9
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On 6/4/18 9:08 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 6/3/2018, 7:51:13 PM, WaltS48 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
>> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
>> tomorrow. 😲
>
> Is this just the newsgroup? Or the email list as well?
>

Only the GG archive will remain.

The good news is, the person the bug is assigned to, left Mozilla in
February 2018, hasn't been reading bugmail since 2015, and hasn't acted
on any of the bugs assigned to him for that product and component.

<https://mzl.la/2kMWf1R>

Maybe the reporter of the bug wasn't aware of all of that.

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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Dave Royal
On Mon, 04 Jun 2018 09:31:39 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:

> The good news is, the person the bug is assigned to, left Mozilla in
> February 2018, hasn't been reading bugmail since 2015, and hasn't acted
> on any of the bugs assigned to him for that product and component.
>
> <https://mzl.la/2kMWf1R>

If you mean Gerv, see this
https://blog.gerv.net/2018/02/going-home/

So not good news.
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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

PietB-2
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Martin Edwards wrote:
> Luis wrote:
>> The truth is that all newsgroups will disappear from Internet sooner or
>> later. The reason is that most users post nonsense useful for nothing.
>
> You have a point but I hope you are wrong.  I am in one where there are
> still good discussions.

On the long term Usenet may vanish altogether. But it has been said a
zillion times before that Usenet will soon cease to exist, because of
the garbage and the lack op interest. Even so there are still some
newsgroups that are quite active and where the usual jerks are kept
in check by the participants.

The problem is that there's nothing to replace it. Sure enough, there
are a zillion forums, but each of them you have to find, you have to
register (which means leaving more or less personal information in a
zillion places), their scope tends to be very narrow, and lots of them
are very inactive (too). That makes them not very useful. Adn whereas
Usenet is still some sort of community, forums are not.

-p

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[Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

WaltS48-9
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On 6/3/18 7:51 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
> tomorrow. 😲
>

Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>

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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

caver1-5
On 06/04/2018 10:06 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

> On 6/3/18 7:51 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
>> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
>> tomorrow. 😲
>>
>
> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>
>


Very good.

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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Luis-2
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WaltS48 wrote:

> On 6/3/18 7:51 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> Just thought some would like to know m.general is one newsgroup on a
>> list of many to be shuttered and archived. The process may start
>> tomorrow. 😲
>>
>
> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>
>
Maybe is part of the chaos.  After all Internet is chaotic nowadays, or not?
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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

s|b-2
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:06:42 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:

> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>

A real fine example of "fake news". Somebody call, Trump! <g>

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Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

The Real Bev
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On 06/04/2018 06:57 AM, Dave Royal wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Jun 2018 09:31:39 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>> The good news is, the person the bug is assigned to, left Mozilla in
>> February 2018, hasn't been reading bugmail since 2015, and hasn't acted
>> on any of the bugs assigned to him for that product and component.
>>
>> <https://mzl.la/2kMWf1R>
>
> If you mean Gerv, see this
> https://blog.gerv.net/2018/02/going-home/
>
> So not good news.

No.

My mom lasted 2.5 weeks after "feeling really tired" and being diagnosed
with liver cancer.  If he's still around, treatments have improved or
he's just really lucky.

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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

The Real Bev
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On 06/04/2018 09:37 AM, s|b wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:06:42 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:
>
>> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>>
>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>
>
> A real fine example of "fake news". Somebody call, Trump! <g>

If you haven't commented, it can't hurt to do so.

Annoying that bugzilla now wants the most complex password I've yet
seen.  My bank and broker don't demand that much :-(

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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Disaster Master
On 6/4/2018, 1:08:14 PM, The Real Bev <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Annoying that bugzilla now wants the most complex password I've yet
> seen.  My bank and broker don't demand that much :-(

Banks are notorious for not allowing secure passwords.

I had one that would only allow a 6 character password, no uppercase
letters, and no numbers. Ridiculous.
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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

The Real Bev
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On 06/04/2018 10:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:

> On 06/04/2018 09:37 AM, s|b wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:06:42 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>>>
>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>
>>
>> A real fine example of "fake news". Somebody call, Trump! <g>
>
> If you haven't commented, it can't hurt to do so.

 From Mike Hoye:  "Thanks for that feedback, Bev. Since there seems to
be a lot of support for that forum, I'll take it off the list."

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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

🐴 Mr. Ed 🐴
On 06/04/18 1:33 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

> On 06/04/2018 10:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 06/04/2018 09:37 AM, s|b wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:06:42 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>>>>
>>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>
>>>
>>> A real fine example of "fake news". Somebody call, Trump! <g>
>>
>> If you haven't commented, it can't hurt to do so.
>
> From Mike Hoye:  "Thanks for that feedback, Bev. Since there seems to be a lot of support for that forum, I'll take it off the list."
>

Thanks Bev

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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

Richard Owlett-3
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On 06/04/2018 12:14 PM, Disaster Master wrote:
> On 6/4/2018, 1:08:14 PM, The Real Bev <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Annoying that bugzilla now wants the most complex password I've yet
>> seen.  My bank and broker don't demand that much :-(
>
> Banks are notorious for not allowing secure passwords.
>
> I had one that would only allow a 6 character password, no uppercase
> letters, and no numbers. Ridiculous.
>

There is hope.
My bank has long required uppercase AND lower case AND numeric elements.
However they aren't perfect ;/
A couple of years ago they required a longer password but didn't notify
ALL customers. Got some strange messages for a while ;}


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Re: [Update] Re: FYI: mozilla.general to be shuttered and archived.

The Real Bev
In reply to this post by 🐴 Mr. Ed 🐴
On 06/04/2018 11:08 AM, 🐴Mr. Ed wrote:

> On 06/04/18 1:33 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 06/04/2018 10:08 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 06/04/2018 09:37 AM, s|b wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 10:06:42 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like it won't be shuttered after all.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1465226#c7>
>>>>
>>>> A real fine example of "fake news". Somebody call, Trump! <g>
>>>
>>> If you haven't commented, it can't hurt to do so.
>>
>> From Mike Hoye:  "Thanks for that feedback, Bev. Since there seems to be a lot of support for that forum, I'll take it off the list."
>>
>
> Thanks Bev

Others did the job before me.  Just glad it will stay up.

Now we need to use it more!

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