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FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
I just discovered FF 3.0.5, FireFox-3.1b3pre.en-US.os2.zip and
Firefox-3.2a1pre.en-US.os2.zip and wanted to give them a try.

While 3.0.5 at first glance continues to work fine, the latter 2 keep
crashing here (even with new profile) shortly after the browser window
comes up with:

Killed by SIGILL
pid=0x022f ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x0094 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
LIBC063 ffffffff:ffffffff
cs:eip=005b:200c3e80      ss:esp=0053:0011cfb8      ebp=0011f570
 ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212246
eax=0011d564 ebx=20911d00 ecx=0011d434 edx=00000000 edi=200bda5c
esi=200c3e80
Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.

To me that looks very similar to what I wrote on 2008-12-23 in
"SM 2.0a2/a3pre.en* keeps crashing when loading an URL"

System is W4 FP16+ on AMD K6-2/500
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
Am 13.01.09 02.02 schrieb Wolfi:
> I just discovered FF 3.0.5, FireFox-3.1b3pre.en-US.os2.zip and
> Firefox-3.2a1pre.en-US.os2.zip and wanted to give them a try.
>
> While 3.0.5 at first glance continues to work fine,

Well, looks I was blowing my horn too early :-(

FF 3.0.5 doesn't switch anymore to the language of an installed language
pack.
I already noticed the same issue with 3.0.4, but didn't yet investigate
it any further, other than to un- and re-install the langpack a few times.
With 3.05 it doesn't work with the old, nor with a new profile.

Doe anyone know where the selected language info is stored nowadays and
how on can manage to force FF to switch to the installed
3.0.5-langpack_de.xpi language?
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Jеns Mаrtin Schlаttеr
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3.2a1 runs fine here...

Try -safe-mode to disable plugins.

JMS

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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Dave Yeo-3
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On 01/13/09 12:02 am, Wolfi wrote:

> I just discovered FF 3.0.5, FireFox-3.1b3pre.en-US.os2.zip and
> Firefox-3.2a1pre.en-US.os2.zip and wanted to give them a try.
>
> While 3.0.5 at first glance continues to work fine, the latter 2 keep
> crashing here (even with new profile) shortly after the browser window
> comes up with:
>
> Killed by SIGILL
> pid=0x022f ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x0094 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
> N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
> LIBC063 ffffffff:ffffffff
> cs:eip=005b:200c3e80      ss:esp=0053:0011cfb8      ebp=0011f570
>   ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212246
> eax=0011d564 ebx=20911d00 ecx=0011d434 edx=00000000 edi=200bda5c
> esi=200c3e80
> Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.
>
> To me that looks very similar to what I wrote on 2008-12-23 in
> "SM 2.0a2/a3pre.en* keeps crashing when loading an URL"
>
> System is W4 FP16+ on AMD K6-2/500

Can you change the line
pref("javascript.options.jit.content",      true);
to false. The line will be in PROGRAM_DIRECTORY\greprefs\all.js around
line 512 and see if it affects the sigill?
Dave
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
Am 13.01.09 09.51 schrieb Dave Yeo:

> On 01/13/09 12:02 am, Wolfi wrote:
>> I just discovered FF 3.0.5, FireFox-3.1b3pre.en-US.os2.zip and
>> Firefox-3.2a1pre.en-US.os2.zip and wanted to give them a try.
>>
>> While 3.0.5 at first glance continues to work fine, the latter 2 keep
>> crashing here (even with new profile) shortly after the browser window
>> comes up with:
>>
>> Killed by SIGILL
>> pid=0x022f ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x0094 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
>> N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
>> LIBC063 ffffffff:ffffffff
>> cs:eip=005b:200c3e80      ss:esp=0053:0011cfb8      ebp=0011f570
>>   ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212246
>> eax=0011d564 ebx=20911d00 ecx=0011d434 edx=00000000 edi=200bda5c
>> esi=200c3e80
>> Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.
>>
>> To me that looks very similar to what I wrote on 2008-12-23 in
>> "SM 2.0a2/a3pre.en* keeps crashing when loading an URL"
>>
>> System is W4 FP16+ on AMD K6-2/500
>
> Can you change the line
> pref("javascript.options.jit.content",      true);
> to false. The line will be in PROGRAM_DIRECTORY\greprefs\all.js around
> line 512 and see if it affects the sigill?


Ooohh right, that's what Peter told me back then for SM 2.0a2+.
I completely forgot about that part :-[

And YES, :-) it makes all the difference in the world :-)

Now FF 3.1+ stays open.

Wolfi
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
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Am 13.01.09 02.36 schrieb Wolfi:

> Am 13.01.09 02.02 schrieb Wolfi:
>> I just discovered FF 3.0.5,  and wanted to give them a try.
>>
>> While 3.0.5 at first glance continues to work fine,
>
> Well, looks I was blowing my horn too early :-(
>
> FF 3.0.5 doesn't switch anymore to the language of an installed language
> pack.
> I already noticed the same issue with 3.0.4, but didn't yet investigate
> it any further, other than to un- and re-install the langpack a few times.
> With 3.05 it doesn't work with the old, nor with a new profile.
>
> Doe anyone know where the selected language info is stored nowadays and
> how on can manage to force FF to switch to the installed
> 3.0.5-langpack_de.xpi language?

Well, now that FireFox-3.1b3pre and Firefox-3.2a1pre  also stay open,
thanks to  pref("javascript.options.jit.content", false);
in \PROGRAM_DIRECTORY\greprefs\all.js

those two also don't switch language after installing the respective
LangPack.

Anyone having better luck?
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Dave Yeo-3
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On 01/13/09 09:29 am, Wolfi wrote:

>>> Killed by SIGILL
>>> >>  pid=0x022f ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x0094 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
>>> >>  N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
>>> >>  LIBC063 ffffffff:ffffffff
>>> >>  cs:eip=005b:200c3e80      ss:esp=0053:0011cfb8      ebp=0011f570
>>> >>     ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212246
>>> >>  eax=0011d564 ebx=20911d00 ecx=0011d434 edx=00000000 edi=200bda5c
>>> >>  esi=200c3e80
>>> >>  Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.
>>> >>
>>> >>  To me that looks very similar to what I wrote on 2008-12-23 in
>>> >>  "SM 2.0a2/a3pre.en* keeps crashing when loading an URL"
>>> >>
>>> >>  System is W4 FP16+ on AMD K6-2/500
>> >
>> >  Can you change the line
>> >  pref("javascript.options.jit.content",      true);
>> >  to false. The line will be in PROGRAM_DIRECTORY\greprefs\all.js around
>> >  line 512 and see if it affects the sigill?
>
>
> Ooohh right, that's what Peter told me back then for SM 2.0a2+.
> I completely forgot about that part:-[
>
> And YES,:-)  it makes all the difference in the world:-)
>
> Now FF 3.1+ stays open.
>

I wonder if the JIT compiler is using instruction(s) that are not
supported by the K6-2? Seems that you are the only one still running a
K6 and also the only one getting a SIGILL (ANSI: Illegal instruction)
with the GCC 3.3.5 compiled versions. I get a sigsegv (ANSI:
Segmentation fault) when compiled with GCC 3.4.6.
Perhaps something to be added to the readme
Dave
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
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Am 13.01.09 02.02 schrieb Wolfi:
> I just discovered FF 3.0.5, FireFox-3.1b3pre.en-US.os2.zip and
> Firefox-3.2a1pre.en-US.os2.zip and wanted to give them a try.

There seems to be another problem (besides the one with language packs
not taking effect anymore) with the new Gecko 1.9 versions, I'm afraid :-(

They have a tendency to just crash here within some 24h or so.
This time, Gecko/2008121717 Firefox/3.0.5 was idling through the night,
when almost 12hrs later I found this in its error.log:

[ConvConfHandler] isPreferred contentType: application/pdf

Killed by SIGSEGV
pid=0x02ab ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x00a7 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
UCONV 0:000000eb
cs:eip=005b:1fee00eb      ss:esp=0053:0011eeec      ebp=0011f1c8
 ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212246
eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=0000000b edx=00000104 edi=00130c8a
esi=0011ef80
Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.

All I had done previously in respect to PDFs, was some 14hrs earlier,
click onto 2 links, which turned out to be offering PDF documents and
Cancel them to be loaded. According to Addons -> Plugins I don't have
one related to PDFs loaded.

Unfortunately with those other "some once a day" crashes, I never did
find anything in error.log

Do others see similar things?

> System is W4 FP16+ on AMD K6-2/500
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Mark-59
Wolfi wrote:

>
> Do others see similar things?
>

   Yes.  I abandoned the FF3 series some months back. 3.0.5 is the last
version I've bothered with and it crashed often for me. Besides the
printing issues and the horrid fonts, FF3 would often terminate while
seemingly doing nothing. No error logs, of course, or I would have
reported them. FF3 would almost always die in less than two days of
being open and about 8 hours of interaction. Flash is not installed on
my system. For reference, FF2 usually lasts until it chews up around 900
meg of RAm (about four days.)

   If there is something I can do to help track this problem down,
please instruct me.

--Mark
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
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Am 14.01.09 14.43 schrieb Wolfi:

> Am 13.01.09 02.02 schrieb Wolfi:
>> I just discovered FF 3.0.5, FireFox-3.1b3pre.en-US.os2.zip and
>> Firefox-3.2a1pre.en-US.os2.zip and wanted to give them a try.
>
> There seems to be another problem (besides the one with language packs
> not taking effect anymore) with the new Gecko 1.9 versions, I'm afraid :-(
>
> They have a tendency to just crash here within some 24h or so.
> This time, Gecko/2008121717 Firefox/3.0.5 was idling through the night,
> when almost 12hrs later I found this in its error.log:
>
> [ConvConfHandler] isPreferred contentType: application/pdf
>
> Killed by SIGSEGV
> pid=0x02ab ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x00a7 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
> N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
> UCONV 0:000000eb
> cs:eip=005b:1fee00eb      ss:esp=0053:0011eeec      ebp=0011f1c8
>  ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212246
> eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=0000000b edx=00000104 edi=00130c8a
> esi=0011ef80
> Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.
>
> All I had done previously in respect to PDFs, was some 14hrs earlier,
> click onto 2 links, which turned out to be offering PDF documents and
> Cancel them to be loaded. According to Addons -> Plugins I don't have
> one related to PDFs loaded.
>
> Unfortunately with those other "some once a day" crashes, I never did
> find anything in error.log
>
>> System is W4 FP16+ on AMD K6-2/500

Well and like clockwork, another crash of FF 3.0.5 after some 20hrs or
so. This time I did find something in error.log:

Killed by SIGSEGV
pid=0x02fc ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x00b2 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
UCONV 0:000049aa
cs:eip=005b:1fee49aa      ss:esp=0053:0011ed4c      ebp=0011f068
 ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212213
eax=022301e0 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 edi=2eddd2c0
esi=0011ee20
Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.

Is this telling something to anyone?
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Steve Wendt
On 1/15/2009 5:01 PM, Wolfi wrote:

> pid=0x02fc ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x00b2 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
> N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
> UCONV 0:000049aa
> cs:eip=005b:1fee49aa      ss:esp=0053:0011ed4c      ebp=0011f068
>  ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212213
> eax=022301e0 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 edi=2eddd2c0
> esi=0011ee20
>
> Is this telling something to anyone?

I think UCONV has something to do with UniCode.  Innotek was
distributing a patched version at one point, because of memory leaks in
the original IBM version.  Maybe if you post the file size, date, and
time info, others can compare against yours.
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
Am 15.01.09 20.34 schrieb Steve Wendt:

> On 1/15/2009 5:01 PM, Wolfi wrote:
>
>> pid=0x02fc ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x00b2 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
>> N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
>> UCONV 0:000049aa
>> cs:eip=005b:1fee49aa      ss:esp=0053:0011ed4c      ebp=0011f068
>>  ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212213
>> eax=022301e0 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 edi=2eddd2c0
>> esi=0011ee20
>>
>> Is this telling something to anyone?
>
> I think UCONV has something to do with UniCode.  Innotek was
> distributing a patched version at one point, because of memory leaks in
> the original IBM version.  Maybe if you post the file size, date, and
> time info, others can compare against yours.

 3.10.01  6.45         23.331     61 a---  uconv.dll

Build Level Display Facility Version 6.12.675 Sep 25 2001
(C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1993-2001
Signature:       @#IBM:14.083#@ Unicode Conversion Functions
Vendor:          IBM
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Steve Wendt
On 01/15/09 06:46 pm, Wolfi wrote:

>> I think UCONV has something to do with UniCode.  Innotek was
>> distributing a patched version at one point, because of memory leaks in
>> the original IBM version.  Maybe if you post the file size, date, and
>> time info, others can compare against yours.
>
>  3.10.01  6.45         23.331     61 a---  uconv.dll

That's the supposedly buggy one:
  7-17-02  10:31a     23331           0  uconv.dll
10-03-01   6:45a     23331          61  uconv.dll.save

Unfortunately, the bldlevel info (and the size, I see) are the same.

I'm not sure if it is available elsewhere, but you can try this:
http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/uconv.zip
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Blacklisted email address-2
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Hi Wolfi,

>  3.10.01  6.45         23.331     61 a---  uconv.dll
> Signature:       @#IBM:14.083#@ Unicode Conversion Functions
> Vendor:          IBM

4/09/02  17:30      18339           0  uconv_dll

Signature:       @#IBM:14.093#@ Unicode Conversion Functions
unreleased

Available at http://www.os2site.com/sw/graphics/fonts/index.html

uconv_dll.zip at the bottom of the page, and a slightly earlier
one that looks like the same one Steve is talking about.

Cheers
IBM
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Wolfi-2
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Am 15.01.09 22.08 schrieb Steve Wendt:

> On 01/15/09 06:46 pm, Wolfi wrote:
>
>>> I think UCONV has something to do with UniCode.  Innotek was
>>> distributing a patched version at one point, because of memory leaks in
>>> the original IBM version.  Maybe if you post the file size, date, and
>>> time info, others can compare against yours.
>>
>>  3.10.01  6.45         23.331     61 a---  uconv.dll
>
> That's the supposedly buggy one:
>  7-17-02  10:31a     23331           0  uconv.dll
> 10-03-01   6:45a     23331          61  uconv.dll.save
>
> Unfortunately, the bldlevel info (and the size, I see) are the same.
>
> I'm not sure if it is available elsewhere, but you can try this:
> http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/uconv.zip

After poking around a bit here locally I found the later one in XR_M017
and also in XR_C005_CP2-V4.52, so it appears to be the same one, that
you are suggesting:

 4.09.02 17.30         23.331     61 a---  UCONV.DLL
 3.10.01  6.45         23.331     61 a---  uconv.dll_14.083_buggy

Signature:       @#IBM:14.093#@ Unicode Conversion Functions
Vendor:          IBM
Revision:        14.93
File Version:    14.93
Description:     Unicode Conversion Functions - Copyright IBM


I replaced it and am now curious to see, if it makes any difference.
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Jеns Mаrtin Schlаttеr
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Mine is 14.083, same size, but from 29-04-2004.
Strange...

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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Peter Weilbacher
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On 16.01.09 02:01, Wolfi wrote:

> Well and like clockwork, another crash of FF 3.0.5 after some 20hrs or
> so. This time I did find something in error.log:
>
> Killed by SIGSEGV
> pid=0x02fc ppid=0x0022 tid=0x0001 slot=0x00b2 pri=0x0200 mc=0x0001
> N:\MOZILLA-TEST\FF3.X\FIREFOX.EXE
> UCONV 0:000049aa
> cs:eip=005b:1fee49aa      ss:esp=0053:0011ed4c      ebp=0011f068
>   ds=0053      es=0053      fs=150b      gs=0000     efl=00212213
> eax=022301e0 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 edi=2eddd2c0
> esi=0011ee20
> Process dumping was disabled, use DUMPPROC / PROCDUMP to enable it.
>
> Is this telling something to anyone?

Do you have an old UCONV.DLL on your system? It normally is in \OS2\DLL
and you should have at least version 14.093 (as bldlevel tells me here).
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Peter Weilbacher
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On 16.01.09 19:58, Wolfi wrote:

> After poking around a bit here locally I found the later one in XR_M017
> and also in XR_C005_CP2-V4.52, so it appears to be the same one, that
> you are suggesting:
>
>   4.09.02 17.30         23.331     61 a---  UCONV.DLL
>   3.10.01  6.45         23.331     61 a---  uconv.dll_14.083_buggy
>
> Signature:       @#IBM:14.093#@ Unicode Conversion Functions
> Vendor:          IBM
> Revision:        14.93
> File Version:    14.93
> Description:     Unicode Conversion Functions - Copyright IBM
>
>
> I replaced it and am now curious to see, if it makes any difference.

Oh, I see this message only now. This should help. (Mozilla itself
doesn't use the system Unicode functions but the included SQLite does.
The version in Firefox 3.1pre and 3.2pre already has a fix for this
problem, but the one in 3.0.x probably not.)
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Peter Weilbacher
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On 14.01.09 23:03, Mark wrote:

> Yes. I abandoned the FF3 series some months back. 3.0.5 is the last
> version I've bothered with and it crashed often for me. Besides the
> printing issues and the horrid fonts, FF3 would often terminate while
> seemingly doing nothing.

Great that people appreciate the sleepless nights that I spent looking
at Mozilla source code or posting here answering the same stupid
question for the 20th time. ;-) (When reading such things I am somewhat
happy that I recently have so little time to work on Mozilla stuff.)

So, what "horrid fonts" are you talking about? Or did you not read
README.txt?

> No error logs, of course, or I would have reported them.

It does create them if you redirect the console output to some file.
Like this
    cd <firefox_installation_directory>
    firefox > firefox.log 2>&1
Sometimes, there is also information about a crash in \POPUPLOG.OS2.

> FF3 would almost always die in less than two days of
> being open and about 8 hours of interaction. Flash is not installed on
> my system.

That is already great as Flash is responsible for 90-95% of the crashes
on OS/2.

> If there is something I can do to help track this problem down, please
> instruct me.

I guess you have already seen the messages about UCONV.DLL in this
thread. Otherwise, logs (see above) _might_ tell us something.
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Re: FF 3.0.5 is OK; FF 3.1.x & 3.2.x keep crashing

Jеns Mаrtin Schlаttеr
Peter Weilbacher <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Great that people appreciate the sleepless nights that I spent looking
> at Mozilla source code

Make a paypal "donate" button on your homepage!!

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