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Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

Randy ®
One of my most desired feature for news reading, is some form of cross-
post management.  I waste a lot of time waiting for article headers to
download to groups, only to find, in many cases, that it's the same
stuff I just read in the previous group.  It's more than a little
annoying, and wastes a lot of time.  Cross-post management would
hopefully make it:

* So you don't have to keep downloading the same articles that have
been cross-posted to numerous groups.
* Save time
* Save bandwidth

Thanks
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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

Joshua Cranmer-2
On 10/17/2009 10:28 AM, Randy ® wrote:
> One of my most desired feature for news reading, is some form of cross-
> post management.  I waste a lot of time waiting for article headers to
> download to groups, only to find, in many cases, that it's the same
> stuff I just read in the previous group.  It's more than a little
> annoying, and wastes a lot of time.  Cross-post management would
> hopefully make it:

This is tracked ultimately under
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278>, but it's not a
high priority. To quote what i say on the bug:

> That being said, it is feasible to write a patch to fix this bug before
> implementing per-account databases. If anyone has excess time on his/her hands
> and wishes to implement this under the present configurations, I would not
> reject the patch out of hand and would even be willing to aid, but it's not my
> priority to fix this before such time, as I believe that per-account dbs would
> solve the problem nicely with little extra work.
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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

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On 17/10/2009 15:28, Randy ® wrote:

> One of my most desired feature for news reading, is some form of cross-
> post management.  I waste a lot of time waiting for article headers to
> download to groups, only to find, in many cases, that it's the same
> stuff I just read in the previous group.  It's more than a little
> annoying, and wastes a lot of time.  Cross-post management would
> hopefully make it:
>
> * So you don't have to keep downloading the same articles that have
> been cross-posted to numerous groups.
> * Save time
> * Save bandwidth
>
> Thanks

Please at least implement the cross post filtering bugs. Most of
news.mozilla.org seems to be cross posted spam atm.
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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

Lee
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I've recently discovered how to do something
like cross-post management on Thunderbird. It may not meet
every need or desired scenario, but it can at least mark
messages read, or delete them all together, if they've
already been loaded into another folder above it.

1. Set your news folders in the order you want them, with
    the group you want to get a copy of everything on top.
2. For that top folder, no cross-post filter is needed. It
    will get everything.
3. For the next folder below that, from message filters,
    select "customize" from the drop-down list on the far
    left, add "Newsgroups" as a custom field, then select
    that filter from the drop-down list.
4. In the next box, select "Contains"
5. In the next box, put the name of the newsgroup for your  
    top level folder.
6. In "Perform these actions", select "Mark Read", or
    "delete", or whatever. This means that any article which
    was already posted to your top level folder, will now be
    marked read or deleted (or whatever) in the folder
    below it.
7. Repeat these steps for each of the folders below that,
    except add additional rows with the name of the
    newsgroup for each folder that occurs above it, and be
    sure to select "Match any of the following". Now, for
    every folder under the top folder, it will mark read any
    article that has occurred in any of the folders above
    it.

Crude, but it does seem to be working for me. At least you
don't have to see the same articles being unread over and
over again, in every group.



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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

dillinger-2
On 9/12/18 6:24 PM, Lee wrote:

> I've recently discovered how to do something
> like cross-post management on Thunderbird. It may not meet
> every need or desired scenario, but it can at least mark
> messages read, or delete them all together, if they've
> already been loaded into another folder above it.
>
> 1. Set your news folders in the order you want them, with
>      the group you want to get a copy of everything on top.
> 2. For that top folder, no cross-post filter is needed. It
>      will get everything.
> 3. For the next folder below that, from message filters,
>      select "customize" from the drop-down list on the far
>      left, add "Newsgroups" as a custom field, then select
>      that filter from the drop-down list.
> 4. In the next box, select "Contains"
> 5. In the next box, put the name of the newsgroup for your
>      top level folder.
> 6. In "Perform these actions", select "Mark Read", or
>      "delete", or whatever. This means that any article which
>      was already posted to your top level folder, will now be
>      marked read or deleted (or whatever) in the folder
>      below it.
> 7. Repeat these steps for each of the folders below that,
>      except add additional rows with the name of the
>      newsgroup for each folder that occurs above it, and be
>      sure to select "Match any of the following". Now, for
>      every folder under the top folder, it will mark read any
>      article that has occurred in any of the folders above
>      it.
>
> Crude, but it does seem to be working for me. At least you
> don't have to see the same articles being unread over and
> over again, in every group.
>
>
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Even more crude: Just put a comma (,) in the contains field.
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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

Lee
dillinger-2 wrote
> On 9/12/18 6:24 PM, Lee wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Even more crude: Just put a comma (,) in the contains field.
> _______________________________________________

Yes, thanks for this advice.



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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

Chris Ilias-8
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On 2018-09-12 1:04 p.m., dillinger wrote:

> On 9/12/18 6:24 PM, Lee wrote:
>
>> I've recently discovered how to do something
>> like cross-post management on Thunderbird. It may not meet
>> every need or desired scenario, but it can at least mark
>> messages read, or delete them all together, if they've
>> already been loaded into another folder above it.
>>
>> 1. Set your news folders in the order you want them, with
>>      the group you want to get a copy of everything on top.
>> 2. For that top folder, no cross-post filter is needed. It
>>      will get everything.
>> 3. For the next folder below that, from message filters,
>>      select "customize" from the drop-down list on the far
>>      left, add "Newsgroups" as a custom field, then select
>>      that filter from the drop-down list.
>> 4. In the next box, select "Contains"
>> 5. In the next box, put the name of the newsgroup for your
>>      top level folder.
>> 6. In "Perform these actions", select "Mark Read", or
>>      "delete", or whatever. This means that any article which
>>      was already posted to your top level folder, will now be
>>      marked read or deleted (or whatever) in the folder
>>      below it.
>> 7. Repeat these steps for each of the folders below that,
>>      except add additional rows with the name of the
>>      newsgroup for each folder that occurs above it, and be
>>      sure to select "Match any of the following". Now, for
>>      every folder under the top folder, it will mark read any
>>      article that has occurred in any of the folders above
>>      it.
>>
>> Crude, but it does seem to be working for me. At least you
>> don't have to see the same articles being unread over and
>> over again, in every group.
>
> Even more crude: Just put a comma (,) in the contains field.

Note that just looking for a comma will mark every message that have
been cross-posted to newsgroups other than your top newsgroup.
* If there's an article posted to newsgroups 2 and 3, it will be
automatically marked as read in both newsgroups.
* If there's an article cross-posted to a newsgroup you're not
subscribed to, it will be automatically marked as read.
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Re: Cross-Post Management For Newsreading

dillinger-2
On 9/13/18 8:52 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:

> On 2018-09-12 1:04 p.m., dillinger wrote:
>> On 9/12/18 6:24 PM, Lee wrote:
>>
>>> I've recently discovered how to do something
>>> like cross-post management on Thunderbird. It may not meet
>>> every need or desired scenario, but it can at least mark
>>> messages read, or delete them all together, if they've
>>> already been loaded into another folder above it.
>>>
>>> 1. Set your news folders in the order you want them, with
>>>      the group you want to get a copy of everything on top.
>>> 2. For that top folder, no cross-post filter is needed. It
>>>      will get everything.
>>> 3. For the next folder below that, from message filters,
>>>      select "customize" from the drop-down list on the far
>>>      left, add "Newsgroups" as a custom field, then select
>>>      that filter from the drop-down list.
>>> 4. In the next box, select "Contains"
>>> 5. In the next box, put the name of the newsgroup for your
>>>      top level folder.
>>> 6. In "Perform these actions", select "Mark Read", or
>>>      "delete", or whatever. This means that any article which
>>>      was already posted to your top level folder, will now be
>>>      marked read or deleted (or whatever) in the folder
>>>      below it.
>>> 7. Repeat these steps for each of the folders below that,
>>>      except add additional rows with the name of the
>>>      newsgroup for each folder that occurs above it, and be
>>>      sure to select "Match any of the following". Now, for
>>>      every folder under the top folder, it will mark read any
>>>      article that has occurred in any of the folders above
>>>      it.
>>>
>>> Crude, but it does seem to be working for me. At least you
>>> don't have to see the same articles being unread over and
>>> over again, in every group.
>>
>> Even more crude: Just put a comma (,) in the contains field.
>
> Note that just looking for a comma will mark every message that have
> been cross-posted to newsgroups other than your top newsgroup.
> * If there's an article posted to newsgroups 2 and 3, it will be
> automatically marked as read in both newsgroups.
> * If there's an article cross-posted to a newsgroup you're not
> subscribed to, it will be automatically marked as read.

You are right, too crude, probably.

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